How Do You Correctly Calculate Tension in a Statics Problem?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in a statics problem involving forces acting on a bridge structure. The original poster attempts to solve for the tension (T) after determining the vertical force (Ay) and the normal force (B), raising questions about their relationships and the components involved.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of force balance equations in both x and y directions, questioning the calculations for B and T. There are inquiries about the correctness of using sine and cosine components in the equations.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the forces, with some participants suggesting that the original poster clarify their calculations for B. Multiple interpretations of the forces acting in the x direction are being considered, particularly regarding the roles of B and T.

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Participants note the absence of friction at the rollers, which influences their understanding of the forces involved. There is also a discussion about the assumptions made regarding the components of the normal force.

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I used sum of forces in x y direction and sum of moments

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So my problem here is that I solved for Ay (1275.3N) and now I have to solve for T

The obvious approach would be to use sum of forces in x direction after doing sum of forces in y to find B. Well I did that and found that B = 2550.6 which is double Ay and equal to mg. B is also perpendicular to the bridge thing. Now when I do sum of forces in x direction i do T = Bcos30 but that's wrong apparently.

Which part am I doing wrong? Is my B wrong?

I calculated B like so:
Fy:0 = Ay - mg + Bsin30

Please help :)
 
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unfortunately it does not. I figured that much. When i break down the N2 into it's components I still get a wrong answer for T
 
i think that it is important to know whether there is friction with the rollers at A and B.
 
There is not, so you would think that the x component of the normal force at B would be equal to T, but it's not!
 
If you explain more explicitly how you got B then I can try to give some help.
 
I calculated B like so:
Fy:0 = Ay - mg + Bsin30

Direct copy from my first post... i don't think i can be more explicit than this..
 
Ortix said:
There is not, so you would think that the x component of the normal force at B would be equal to T, but it's not!


It has to be. What other forces in the x direction are there?
 
From what I understand there are 2 forces. B and T both pointing in the opposite direction. Is that correct?
 
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Ortix said:
I calculated B like so:
Fy:0 = Ay - mg + Bsin30

Direct copy from my first post... i don't think i can be more explicit than this..

I think that sin must be replaced by cos.
 
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Ortix said:
From what I understand there are 2 forces. B and T both pointing in the opposite direction. Is that correct?
One must be careful here. The SIN30 component of B is in the opposite direction of T.
 

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