How Do You Determine Post-Collision Velocities Using Distance and Angle?

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The discussion focuses on determining post-collision velocities of two equal masses (m1 = m2) after a collision, using the principles of momentum and distance. The key equations referenced include the conservation of momentum (P(total) = P(total)¹) and the relationship between momentum and velocity (m1v1 = m1v1¹ + m2v2¹). Participants suggest that the horizontal component of velocity remains unchanged and that the distances traveled post-collision can be used to derive velocities, as momentum is proportional to both velocity and distance. The conclusion emphasizes that for equal masses, displacement can be utilized in place of momentum to find the velocities of the masses after the collision.

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Homework Statement


If you have a mass colliding with another mass at rest and they both go off in different directions, how do you find out the velocity of the masses after the collision given the distance they travel, the angle they travel and the masses (m1 = m2). You are also told that momentum is proportional to velocity which is proportional to distance.


Homework Equations


P(total) = P(total)¹

m1v1 = m1v1¹ + m2v2¹


The Attempt at a Solution


Im guessing that the horizontal component of their velocity remains unchanged and therefore the distance they go horizontally is propotional to their horizontal velocity, but I still don't understand how you can determine the velocity of the masses with this information.

I was told that the distance the masses travel after collision represents the final momentum vectors of mass 1 & 2 because m1 = m2 and p is proportional to v, proportional to d. Could I take the distance they travel and divide it by their masses to get the velocity because p=mv?
 
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I think it is about using
m1d1 = m1d1¹ + m2d2¹

divide them into x-y components
 
Ok, that looks like the right way to do it, but I am almost sure that for equal size balls with the same mass, the displacement lengths can be used in place of the momentum. How can the displacement equal momentum, when youre saying that momentum equals displacement AND mass? Mabey since the masses are the same before and after, could you take out masses?
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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