How Do You Determine the Eigenstate of S_x with Eigenvalue +ħ/2?

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The discussion revolves around determining the eigenstate of the operator S_x corresponding to the eigenvalue +ħ/2 in quantum mechanics. Participants are exploring the notation and mathematical representation of the eigenstate, as well as the underlying principles of eigenvectors in this context.

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  • Participants are questioning the notation |S_x; +⟩ and its meaning, with some expressing confusion over how to derive this eigenstate. There are discussions about writing S_x as a matrix and applying it to find the eigenstate. Others suggest using polar and azimuthal angles to express the eigenstate in terms of |+⟩ and |−⟩ states.

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Some participants have made progress in understanding the representation of the eigenstate, while others are still seeking clarification on the notation and derivation process. There is a mix of interpretations and approaches being explored, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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There is mention of the need to normalize the eigenstate after determining the coefficients α and β, indicating that the discussion is framed within the constraints of quantum mechanics principles and the requirements of the homework problem.

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We know that [tex]S_x = \frac{\hbar}{2} \left( |+ \rangle \langle - | + | - \rangle \langle+| \right)[/tex]

But what is [tex]|S_x ; + \rangle[/tex]?

I think my text says [tex]|S_x ; + \rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \left( |+ \rangle + | - \rangle \right)[/tex] but i don't know how they got this.

I feel like this is a trivial question but I'm not sure how one finds [tex]|S_x ; + \rangle[/tex]
 
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But WHAT is [itex]|S_{x},+\rangle[/itex] ?? I've never seen this notation before...And it's not that I've looked into one book...:rolleyes: I haven't looked in your book, apparently, you might share with us the title and the author...
 
I imagine that it's the positive spin direction for S_x.

OP: it's just an eigenvector -- so you find it in the same way that you find any eigenvectors. If it helps, write S_x as a matrix, in the |+>, |-> basis that you've got things in.
 
I just figured it out.

I am using * as the dot product

[tex]S * \hat n | S * \hat n ; + \rangle = \frac{ \hbar}{2} | S * \hat n ; + \rangle[/tex]
[tex]| S * \hat n ; + \rangle = \cos \frac{\beta}{2} |+ \rangle + \sin \frac{\beta}{2} e^{i \alpha} | - \rangle[/tex]

where beta is the polar angle and alpha is the azimuthal angle.

therefore, an S_x measurement would be where beta = pi/2 and alpha =0

since the S_x measurement would yield +hbar/2, we get:

[tex]| S_x; + \rangle = \cos \frac{\pi/2}{2} |+ \rangle + \sin \frac{\pi/2}{2} e^{0} | - \rangle[/tex]

therefore:
[tex]|S_x ; + \rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \left( |+ \rangle + | - \rangle \right)[/tex]
 
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indigojoker said:
We know that [tex]S_x = \frac{\hbar}{2} \left( |+ \rangle \langle - | + | - \rangle \langle+| \right)[/tex]

But what is [tex]|S_x ; + \rangle[/tex]?

I think my text says [tex]|S_x ; + \rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \left( |+ \rangle + | - \rangle \right)[/tex] but i don't know how they got this.

I feel like this is a trivial question but I'm not sure how one finds [tex]|S_x ; + \rangle[/tex]

They want the state which is an eigenstate of Sx with the eigenvalue +hbar/2.

So you could write [tex]|S_x ; + \rangle = \alpha <br /> |+ \rangle + \beta |- <br /> \rangle[/tex]

and apply S_x, imposing [itex]S_x |S_x; + > = \frac{\hbar}{2} |S_x;+>[/itex] and then solve for alpha and beta (and normalize at the end)
 

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