How Do Heisenberg Equations Describe Spin Dynamics in a Magnetic Field?

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of a spin-1/2 particle in a magnetic field, specifically using Heisenberg equations to analyze the behavior of spin operators. Participants are tasked with deriving equations for the expectation values of the spin components in the context of quantum mechanics.

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  • Participants discuss the derivation of Heisenberg equations for the spin operators and the resulting second-order differential equations. There is an exploration of the relationship between the Schrödinger and Heisenberg pictures at t=0, as well as the implications for expectation values.

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Some participants have provided guidance on forming expectation values based on initial conditions, while others express uncertainty about specific steps in the solution process. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the initial state of the system.

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Participants are working under the constraints of deriving equations without providing complete solutions, and there is an emphasis on understanding the implications of the Heisenberg equations in the context of spin dynamics.

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Homework Statement


Consider a spin ##\frac{1}{2}## particle at rest in a B-field ##\vec B = B_0\vec e_z##.

(a) Find the Heisenberg equations for ##\hat S_x## and ##\hat S_y##.

(b) Obtain from the Heisenberg equations two decoupled second-order differential equations for ##\langle \hat S_x \rangle_{\psi}## and ##\langle \hat S_y \rangle_{\psi}## for a general state ##| \psi \rangle## of the particle.

(c) Solve the equations for a particle that initially (at t = 0) is in a state of ##S_x = \frac{\hbar}{2}##

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For part (a) I have done the following;

##\langle \psi (t) | \hat B_S | \psi (t) \rangle = \langle e^{-\frac{i \hat H t}{\hbar}} \psi (0) | \hat B_S | e^{-\frac{i \hat H t}{\hbar}} \psi (0) \rangle = \langle \psi (0) | e^{\frac{i \hat H t}{\hbar}} \hat B_S e^{-\frac{i \hat H t}{\hbar}} | \psi (0) \rangle##

##B_H = e^{\frac{i \hat H t}{\hbar}} \hat B_S e^{-\frac{i \hat H t}{\hbar}}##

where the H and S subscripts correspond to the Heisenberg and Schrödinger pictures respectively.

The hamiltonian that I have is ##\hat H = - \gamma B_0 \hat S_z##

which leads me to the conclusion that my spin operators are unchanged in the Heisenberg picture.

for part (b) I use the Heisenberg equation of motion on both the ##\hat S_x## and ##\hat S_y## operators

##\frac{d}{dt} \hat S_x = \frac{i}{\hbar} [\hat H, \hat S_x] = \gamma B_0 \hat S_y##

##\frac{d}{dt} \hat S_y = \frac{i}{\hbar} [\hat H, \hat S_y] = - \gamma B_0 \hat S_x##

I then differentiate both again, and substitute the original equations into the result to find

##\frac{d^2}{dt^2} \hat S_y = -(\gamma B_0)^2 \hat S_y##

##\frac{d^2}{dt^2} \hat S_x = -(\gamma B_0)^2 \hat S_x##

These two equations are SHM equations with solutions of the form ##y = A \cos \omega t + B \sin \omega t ##

solving these I find that ##\hat S_y (t) = \hat S_y (0) \cos (\gamma B_0 t) - \hat S_x (0) \sin (\gamma B_0 t)## and ##\hat S_x (t) = \hat S_x (0) \cos (\gamma B_0 t) + \hat S_y (0) \sin (\gamma B_0 t)##

I don't really understand what the question is trying to get me to do here. Any guidance would be much appreciated.
 
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Looks all ok, I think the only thing you are assumed still to do is to form the expectations values with the psi(0) specified.
 
DrDu said:
Looks all ok, I think the only thing you are assumed still to do is to form the expectations values with the psi(0) specified.

I'm still having trouble solving this. I can't see how to find ##\hat S_y (0)##
 
At t=0, the operators in the Schroedinger and Heisenberg picture coincide.
 
DrDu said:
At t=0, the operators in the Schroedinger and Heisenberg picture coincide.

Thanks, I see.

Ok, so I know that ##\psi (s_x = \hbar / 2) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \begin{pmatrix} 1\\ 1 \end{pmatrix}##. Does "solving" these equations mean taking the expectation value for my state?
 
I think so, what do you get?
 
DrDu said:
I think so, what do you get?

I find that ##\langle \hat S_y \rangle_{\psi} = - \frac{\hbar}{2} \sin (\gamma B_0 t)## and ##\langle \hat S_x \rangle_{\psi} = \frac{\hbar}{2} \cos (\gamma B_0 t)##
 
BOAS said:
I find that ##\langle \hat S_y \rangle_{\psi} = - \frac{\hbar}{2} \sin (\gamma B_0 t)## and ##\langle \hat S_x \rangle_{\psi} = \frac{\hbar}{2} \cos (\gamma B_0 t)##
Looks good!
 
DrDu said:
Looks good!

Thank you for your help
 

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