How Do You Find Relative Extrema of the Function h(x) = cos(π/x)?

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The discussion revolves around finding the relative extrema of the function h(x) = cos(π/x) defined on the interval (0,1). Participants are exploring the conditions under which the function achieves its maximum and minimum values within this domain.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using the first derivative test and express confusion regarding the interpretation of results, particularly the equation 1=0. There is mention of using guess and check methods to identify potential extrema, as well as attempts to solve the second derivative.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants questioning the validity of their approaches and interpretations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to find values where h'(x) = 0, and there is a focus on the implications of using arcsin in the context of the sine function's periodicity.

Contextual Notes

Participants are under the constraint of needing to show their work for academic purposes, which influences their approach to the problem. There is also a recognition of the challenges posed by the function's behavior as x approaches 0.

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Homework Statement


Let h:(0,1)→ℝ be defined by h(x)=cos([itex]\pi\\[/itex]/x). Determine the set of all x such that x has a relative extreme value at x.



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The Attempt at a Solution


It is common knowledge that the min and max are -1 and 1. Using intuition, it is clear by guess and check to arrive at x=1/(2n+1) gives a minimum and x=1/2n gives a maximum.

Using the first derivative test, I arrive at 1=0 which is not true. I am unsure how to interpret this answer.

Trying to solve [itex]d^{2}[/itex](cos([itex]\pi\\[/itex]/x))/d[itex]x^{2}[/itex]=0 is proving to be a real challenge.

I am only concerned about this since my professor wants me to show my work, so I do not think saying I guessed and checked will be acceptable.
 
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k3k3 said:

Homework Statement


Let h:(0,1)→ℝ be defined by h(x)=cos([itex]\pi\\[/itex]/x). Determine the set of all x such that x has a relative extreme value at x.



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


It is common knowledge that the min and max are -1 and 1. Using intuition, it is clear by guess and check to arrive at x=1/(2n+1) gives a minimum and x=1/2n gives a maximum.

Using the first derivative test, I arrive at 1=0 which is not true. I am unsure how to interpret this answer.

Trying to solve [itex]d^{2}[/itex](cos([itex]\pi\\[/itex]/x))/d[itex]x^{2}[/itex]=0 is proving to be a real challenge.

I am only concerned about this since my professor wants me to show my work, so I do not think saying I guessed and checked will be acceptable.
Instead of guessing at the answer, find the values of x for which h'(x) = 0.

Show us what you did to arrive at 1 = 0.
 
Mark44 said:
Instead of guessing at the answer, find the values of x for which h'(x) = 0.

Show us what you did to arrive at 1 = 0.

Using the chain rule, h'(x)=[itex]\pi\\[/itex]sin([itex]\pi\\[/itex]/x)*1/x[itex]^{2}[/itex]

Set it equal to 0

[itex]\pi\\[/itex]sin([itex]\pi\\[/itex]/x)*1/x[itex]^{2}[/itex]=0

Multiply both sides by x[itex]^{2}[/itex]/[itex]\pi\\[/itex] yields sin([itex]\pi\\[/itex]/x)=0

Take the arcsin of both sides yields

[itex]\pi\\[/itex]/x=0

Divide both sides by pi,

1/x=0

Multiply both sides by x

1=0

Or am I forgetting that there are more possible values that arcsin can be 0?
 
k3k3 said:
Using the chain rule, h'(x)=[itex]\pi\\[/itex]sin([itex]\pi\\[/itex]/x)*1/x[itex]^{2}[/itex]

Set it equal to 0

[itex]\pi\\[/itex]sin([itex]\pi\\[/itex]/x)*1/x[itex]^{2}[/itex]=0

Multiply both sides by x[itex]^{2}[/itex]/[itex]\pi\\[/itex] yields sin([itex]\pi\\[/itex]/x)=0

Take the arcsin of both sides yields

[itex]\pi\\[/itex]/x=0

Divide both sides by pi,

1/x=0

Multiply both sides by x

1=0

Or am I forgetting that there are more possible values that arcsin can be 0?

You should not be looking at the arcsin; you should be looking for solutions of the equation sin(w) = 0. Can you see why the arcsin misses all but one solution?

RGV
 

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