How Do You Find the X-Coordinate of Point Q on Curve C?

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The discussion revolves around finding the x-coordinate of point Q on curve C, given that the tangent at Q is parallel to the tangent at point P(3,5). The focus is on the relationship between the derivatives of the function and the conditions for parallel tangents.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that since the tangents are parallel, the gradients at points P and Q must be equal.
  • Another participant asks for the value of the slope at point P and suggests finding other x-values that yield the same slope.
  • A participant proposes that the derivative f'(x) can be factored to find the x-values where the slope is equal, suggesting x = -1/3 as the other solution.
  • Another participant agrees with the x = -1/3 solution but clarifies that the initial factorization was not of the derivative itself, but rather of an equation derived from setting the derivative equal to the slope at P.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is some agreement on the value of x = -1/3 as a solution, but there is disagreement regarding the method of arriving at that solution, particularly about the factorization of the derivative.

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Participants express uncertainty about the correct approach to factorization and the implications of the derivative's value at point P. There are unresolved steps in the mathematical reasoning presented.

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Hi

The curve C has equation y = f(x) and the point P(3,5) lies on C

Given that

f'(x) = 3x² - 8x + 6

The point Q also lies on C, and the tangent to C at Q is parallel to the tangent to C at P

Find the x-coordinate of Q

So

if there parallel the gradients are equal

but i can't really seem to get anywhere after that :(
 
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Indeed, the gradients of y = f(x) at P and Q are equal. What is the value of that slope at P? Then, what other x gives the same slope?
 
You factorise the derative of f(x) which is f'(x)
giving you
(3x+1)(x-3)

x = 3 or x = -1/3

we already know x = 3 so the other is -1/3

i believe that is correct?
 
thomas49th said:
You factorise the derative of f(x) which is f'(x)
giving you
(3x+1)(x-3)

x = 3 or x = -1/3

we already know x = 3 so the other is -1/3

i believe that is correct?
Yes, that is correct but the way you phrased it confused me a bit! You did not factorize f '(x). You can easily calculate that the derivative at x= 3 is 9 so at the other point, you must have [itex]3x^2- 8x+ 6= 9[/itex] which then gives [itex]3x^3- 8x- 3= 0[/itex]. That is what you factored, not the derivative of f.
 
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