How Do You Give a Rigorous Proof for Fraction Multiplication?

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Give a rigorous proof using the appropriate axioms and the definition ,[tex]\frac{a}{b}=a\frac{1}{b}[/tex] of the following:

[tex]\frac{a}{b}*\frac{c}{d}=\frac{ac}{bd}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{a}{b}:\frac{c}{d} =\frac{ad}{bc}[/tex]
 
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[tex]\frac{a}{b}*\frac{c}{d}= a\frac{1}{b}*c\frac{1}{d}=ac*\frac{1}{bd}=\frac{ac}{bd}[/tex]

That is how far i can go.But then this is not a rigorous proof, is there??
 
poutsos.A said:
[tex]\frac{a}{b}*\frac{c}{d}= a\frac{1}{b}*c\frac{1}{d}=ac*\frac{1}{bd}=\frac{ac}{bd}[/tex]

That is how far i can go.But then this is not a rigorous proof, is there??

You have not stated which axioms/theorems you used in the second equality.
 
commutativity and associativity
 
poutsos.A said:
commutativity and associativity

Right. How did you prove the equality:(1/b)(1/d) = 1/(bd) ?
 
The whole point of these exercices is to justify each of your steps with the proper axioms. As Slider142 said, now all that's remains to be justified is (1/b)(1/d) = 1/(bd).

But you should use more parenthesis, to highlight the use of associativity. That is, instead of

[tex] \frac{a}{b}*\frac{c}{d}= a\frac{1}{b}*c\frac{1}{d}=ac*\frac{1}{bd}=\frac{ac }{bd}[/tex]

better is

[tex]\left(\frac{a}{b}\right)\left(\frac{c}{d}\right)=\left(a\frac{1}{b}\right)\left(c\frac{1}{d}\right)=\left(\left(a\frac{1}{b}\right)c\right)\frac{1}{d}=\left(a\left(\frac{1}{b}c\right)\right)\frac{1}{d}=\left(a\left(c\frac{1}{b}\right)\right)\frac{1}{d}=\left(\left(ac\right)\frac{1}{b}\right)\frac{1}{d}=(ac)\left(\frac{1}{b}\frac{1}{d}\right)=(ac)\left\frac{1}{bd}=\frac{ac}{bd}[/tex]

and the justifications are: by definition, by associativity, by associativity, by commutativity, by associativity, by associativity, by <insert justification why (1/b)(1/d) = 1/(bd)>, by definition.
 
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slider142 said:
Right. How did you prove the equality:(1/b)(1/d) = 1/(bd) ?


The only proof i can thing of ,is the following:

[tex]\frac{1}{b}\frac{1}{d} = \frac{1}{bd}\Longleftrightarrow (bd)\frac{1}{b}\frac{1}{d} = (bd)\frac{1}{bd}\Longleftrightarrow d(b\frac{1}{b})\frac{1}{d} = 1\Longleftrightarrow d\frac{1}{d} = 1[/tex].

But then again this is not a rigorous proof ,is there??
 
poutsos.A said:
The only proof i can thing of ,is the following:

[tex]\frac{1}{b}\frac{1}{d} = \frac{1}{bd}\Longleftrightarrow (bd)\frac{1}{b}\frac{1}{d} = (bd)\frac{1}{bd}\Longleftrightarrow d(b\frac{1}{b})\frac{1}{d} = 1\Longleftrightarrow d\frac{1}{d} = 1[/tex].

But then again this is not a rigorous proof ,is there??

That's a perfectly rigorous proof, assuming your definition of 1/(bd) is as the multiplicative inverse of bd. This completes the rigor of your proof.
 
Could the following proof of :

[tex]\frac{\frac{a}{b}}{\frac{c}{d}} = \frac{a}{b}.\frac{d}{c}[/tex], be consider as a rigorous proof??


[tex]\frac{\frac{a}{b}}{\frac{c}{d}} = \frac{a}{b}.\frac{1}{\frac{c}{d}}[/tex] =............by definition of division x/y = x.(1/y) where we put x = a/b and y= c/d



= [tex]\frac{a}{b}.\frac{1}{c.\frac{1}{d}}[/tex] =..........by the definition of the division again where we put x=c and y= d



= [tex]\frac{a}{b}\frac{1}{c}.\frac{1}{\frac{1}{d}}[/tex] =............by the use of the theorem (1/x).(1/y) = 1/xy where we put x=c and y= 1/d



= [tex]\frac{a}{b}.\frac{1}{c}.(1.\frac{1}{\frac{1}{d}})[/tex] =...........by the use of the axiom 1.x = x where we put [tex]x=\frac{1}{\frac{1}{d}}[/tex]



= [tex]\frac{a}{b}.\frac{1}{c}.[(d.\frac{1}{d}).\frac{1}{\frac{1}{d}}][/tex] =............by the fact x.(1/x) = 1 where we put x=d



= [tex]\frac{a}{b}.\frac{1}{c}.[d.(\frac{1}{d}.\frac{1}{\frac{1}{d}})][/tex] = ..........by the associative law



=[tex]\frac{a}{b}.\frac{1}{c}.(d.1)[/tex] = ..............again by the fact x.(1/x) = 1 where we put x= 1/d




= [tex]\frac{a}{b}\frac{1}{c}.d[/tex] = ..............again by the axiom 1.x =x






= [tex]\frac{a}{b}\frac{c}{d}[/tex] = ...............again by the use of the definition x/y = x.(1/y) where we put x=d and y = c