How Do You Model a Mass-Spring-Damper System for a Rotating Body?

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The discussion focuses on modeling a mass-spring-damper system for a rotating body, specifically deriving the differential equation φ(t) for oscillation/vibration. Two approaches are presented: Solution 1 uses the moment of inertia Jₒ and incorporates damping and spring forces, while Solution 2 employs mass m and leads to different formulations. The key parameters include Jₒ = 0.3 kg/m², b = 200 kg/s, and the dimensions of the system. The lack of a visual representation of the setup complicates the determination of the correct approach.

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Homework Statement



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The mass-spring-damper-system is consist of a rotating body (Jo), a flat spring (E, I), a damper (b) and a connecting rod. Only the mass of the rotating body is to be considered. It is assumed that there's only a small angular travels due to the oscillation/vibration.

Find the differential equation φ(t) for the oscillation/vibration of the rotating body.

Values given: Jo = 0.3 kg/m² ; b = 200 kg/s ; a = 25cm ; L = 20 cm

Homework Equations


[tex]F_{D} =[/tex] [tex]b . a . \dot{\varphi}[/tex]

[tex]F_{F} =[/tex] [tex]c .a . \varphi[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



i have came up with two approaches.. but i don't know which one is correct

Solution 1:

[tex]J_{o}\ddot{\varphi} = -F_{F} . a - F_{D} . a[/tex]

[tex]J_{o}\ddot{\varphi} + b . a^{2} . \dot{\varphi} + c . a^{2} . \varphi = 0[/tex]

[tex]\ddot{\varphi} + \frac{b . a^{2}}{J_{o}} . \dot{\varphi} + \frac{c . a^{2}}{J_{o}} . \varphi = 0[/tex]

[tex]with[/tex]
[tex]2\delta = \frac{b . a^{2}}{J_{o}} ; \omega{o}^{2} = \frac{c . a^{2}}{J_{o}}[/tex]

Solution 2:

[tex]m . a . \ddot{\varphi} = -F_{F} - F_{D}[/tex]

[tex]m . a . \ddot{\varphi} + b . a \dot{\varphi} + c . a . \varphi = 0[/tex]

[tex]\ddot {\varphi} + \frac{ba}{ma} \dot{\varphi} + \frac {ca}{ma}\varphi = 0[/tex]

[tex]with[/tex]
[tex]2\delta = \frac{b}{m} ; \omega_{o}^{2} = \frac {c}{m}[/tex]

both would give different answers for calculating other unknowns.. so i wonder which one is correct ?
 
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It is not possible to decide without a heavy dose of guesswork which of the two equations is correct without a picture of the setup. Alas, the link to the figure is broken. :confused:
 
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