How do you multiply percents on paper

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The discussion revolves around the process of multiplying percentages on paper, specifically addressing the confusion that can arise regarding the placement of zeros in the final answer. Participants explore different methods for performing this calculation, including the use of fractions, powers of ten, and rules for decimal multiplication.

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  • One participant states that multiplying 5 million by 5 percent results in confusion over the number of zeros in the answer when done on paper.
  • Another participant prefers using fractions, suggesting that 5 percent can be expressed as 5/100, leading to a calculation of 25 million divided by 100 to arrive at 250 thousand.
  • A third participant emphasizes that percent means divided by 100 and proposes using powers of ten to simplify the multiplication process, demonstrating the calculation step-by-step.
  • One participant suggests factoring out powers of ten to facilitate addition or subtraction of exponents, arriving at the same final answer of 250,000.
  • Another participant introduces a rule for long-hand decimal multiplication, explaining how to count decimal places and adjust the final answer accordingly.

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Participants present various methods for multiplying percentages, with no clear consensus on a single approach. Some prefer fractions, while others advocate for using decimal representations or powers of ten. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to handle the placement of zeros.

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Participants express different assumptions about the representation of percentages and the handling of decimal places, which may affect their calculations. There are also differences in the clarity of the rules applied to long-hand multiplication.

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5 million times 5 percent would be 5000000 X 0.05. When you do this on a calculator you get 250000 but when you do it on paper you end up with more zeros in the answer. When you multiply percents on paper what is the easiest way to figure out how many zeros go in your answer?
 
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When it comes to computing math by hand, I like fractions more than decimals.

5 percent is 5/100, so I'd multiply 5 million by 5 to get 25 million, and divide by 100 to get 250 thousand.

If you're getting more zeroes, you may be getting 25000000, but because it's 0.05 instead of 5, you need to shift the decimal point in your result two places to the left.
 
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5 million times 5 percent would be 5000000 X 0.05. When you do this on a calculator you get 250000 but when you do it on paper you end up with more zeros in the answer. When you multiply percents on paper what is the easiest way to figure out how many zeros go in your answer?
First and most important is that % means nothing else than divided by 100.
Next it is best to write such numbers by powers of ten: ##5000000=5,000,000 = 5\cdot 10^6##. Thus we have
$$
5000000 \cdot 0.05 = 5 \cdot 10^6 \cdot 5 \cdot \frac{1}{100} = 25 \cdot 10^6 \cdot 10^{-2} =25 \cdot10^4 = 250,000
$$
 
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Factor out the powers of 10 (move the decimal point) so that you can add or subtract exponents: ##5000000 * 0.05 = 5*10^6*5*10^{-2} = 25*10^{6-2} = 25*10^4 = 250000.##

EDIT: I'm too slow. ;>)
 
It is a rule of decimal long hand multiplication. Count all the places to the right of the decimal point in both numbers, in your case 2 places(0.05) and 0 int the original number. the answer has to a decimal point 2 places to the left.
example: 0.125 x 1.34 = 125 x 134 = 16750 now we need to add 5 decimal places: 0.16750 or 0.15675
 

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