How do you solve a 4th degree equation?

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The discussion revolves around solving a fourth-degree polynomial equation derived from a higher order linear homogeneous differential equation, specifically the characteristic equation r^4 + r^3 - 7r^2 - r + 6 = 0.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss various methods for finding roots, including guessing potential rational roots, using the rational root theorem, and employing polynomial long division. Some express frustration with their prior education on the topic.

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There is ongoing exploration of potential roots, with some participants noting that r = 1 and r = -1 appear to be solutions. Guidance on using the rational root theorem and polynomial long division has been provided, although no consensus on a complete solution has been reached.

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Participants mention a lack of prior exposure to solving such equations in high school, which may affect their confidence and approach to the problem. There is also a recognition that not all polynomial equations will have rational roots.

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Homework Statement


From the higher order linear homogeneous differential equation, I get the characteristic equation:
r^4 + r^3 -7r^2 -r + 6 = 0
solve for r.


Homework Equations


how do you do this?


The Attempt at a Solution


Even if I factor out the r from the first 4 terms on the LH, i get no where. I wish in high school they went over this stuff, but they seriously didn't
 
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nmbr42 said:

Homework Statement


From the higher order linear homogeneous differential equation, I get the characteristic equation:
r^4 + r^3 -7r^2 -r + 6 = 0
solve for r.

Homework Equations


how do you do this?

The Attempt at a Solution


Even if I factor out the r from the first 4 terms on the LH, i get no where. I wish in high school they went over this stuff, but they seriously didn't
It's fairly easy to see that r = 1 is a solution.

Almost as easy to see that r = -1 is also a solution.
 
nmbr42: the usual approach is to guess, using your experience of how the equations work, then use long division to remove the guessed factors. It is usually taught in junior High School. Possibly you were sick that day or more interested in other things.

How easy it is to realize that 1 and -1 are roots does kinda depend on your experience with these things... but you do learn how to make good guesses as you become familiar with the way polynomials behave.

In a pinch you can use Newton/Raphson to get the first root, or just use a computer to plot the graph :) and there are general solutions online.
 
One important guide to making "guesses" is the "rational root theorem".

"Any rational number, satisfying [itex]a_nx^n+ a_{n-1}x^{n-1}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ a_1x+ a_0= 0[/itex], is of the form m/n where m evenly divides the "constant term", [itex]a_0[/itex] and n evenly divides the "leading coefficient", [itex]a_n[/itex]."

Of course, it is always possible that a polynomial equation does not have any rational roots but we can tell that if this equation has rational roots, they must be integers (because the leading coefficient is 1 and only 1 divides 1) and must be 1, -1, 2, -2, 3, -3, 6, or -6 (because the constant term is 6 and only those numbers divide 6).
 
I actually used this link to help me since Simon Bridge mentioned about long division:
http://www.purplemath.com/modules/polydiv3.htm

quite simple straight forward method.
the roots are -3,2,1, and -1.
Since -1 and 1 are guesses that actually worked, I first divided the equation by (r-1) then (r+1). Then at last you get the equation
r^2 + r -6 =0
 
no worries... it's all good and glad we could help :)
 

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