How Do You Solve an Integral Using U-Substitution and Logarithmic Functions?

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The discussion revolves around solving an integral using u-substitution and logarithmic functions, specifically focusing on the integral of the form ∫(1/(1 + √(2x))) dx. Participants explore the correct substitution method and the steps needed to simplify the integral.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the transition from the integral ∫(1/(1 + √(2x))) dx to the form involving u and √(2x), indicating a lack of clarity in the steps.
  • Another participant suggests that the substitution should focus on the expression under the square root, proposing that setting u equal to √(2x) might be more appropriate.
  • A different participant clarifies that the directions specify setting the entire denominator as u, which complicates the substitution process.
  • One participant emphasizes that after substituting u for x, no x should remain in the integral, pointing out the need to express everything in terms of u.
  • Another participant provides a step-by-step transformation of the integral after substitution, leading to a simplified form that can be integrated.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the appropriate substitution method and the handling of variables in the integral. There is no consensus on the best approach, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective substitution technique.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of ensuring that all variables in the integral are consistent after substitution, but there are unresolved issues regarding the correct approach to the integral and the steps involved in the substitution process.

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Hey everyone. One of the steps at the end of this problem is confusing to me. I'll point it out.

[tex] \int \frac{1}{1+ \sqrt{2x}} dx [/tex]

Setting u equal to [tex]{1+ \sqrt{2x}}[/tex] and du equal to [tex]\frac {1}{\sqrt(2x)}[/tex] and taking the derivative, I get [tex] \int \frac {sqrt(2x)}{u} du[/tex]

The answer to the problem is apparently as follows -

[tex] \equiv \sqrt{2x} - ln|1+ \sqrt{2x}| + c[/tex]

As far as I'm aware there is no step in between those last two. I'm not sure how it works and I'm 90% sure that I'm just missing something extremely obvious. I'd appreciate any help. Thank you!
 
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okay so here your biggest problem is your u.
When you have a value under a square root your best bet is usually to set u = what is under that square root.
And i am very confused with your answer as it includes both variables u and x.
You must also remember to find a way to sub du into the value of dx.
 
Sorry about that; hopefully my edited post is a little more clear. In my class we usually do set the value(s) under the square root as the u. However, in this particular problem, the directions are to set the entire denominator as u. I'm not sure how to do it even if I was to set u=2x. I'm new to the whole syntax thing. dx = sqrt(2x)du after going through everything.
 
[tex]u = 1 + \sqrt{2x} => \sqrt{2x} = u - 1[/tex]

Does that help you? You need the integral to have the same variable.
 
After you have substituted "u" for "x", you cannot have an x remaining in the integral! I'm not sure how in the world you would integrate
[tex]\int \frac {sqrt(2x)}{u} du[/tex]
with the x in there while differentiating with respec to u.

Fortunately, as awvvu said, since [itex]u= 1+ \sqrt{2x}[/itex], [itex]\sqrt{2x}= u- 1[/itex]. You integral, after the substitution is really
[tex]\int \frac {u-1}{u} du = \int (1- \frac{1}{u}) du[/tex]
That gives the answer you have.
 

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