How Do You Solve Physics Problems Involving a Pulley System with Two Students?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a pulley system with two students, where one student is at rest on the floor and the other is suspended. The problem includes calculating forces and tensions in various scenarios, particularly focusing on the effects of one student climbing the rope.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on both students, particularly the tension in the rope and how it changes when one student accelerates. There are attempts to apply Newton's laws to understand the dynamics of the system.

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Some participants are actively working through the calculations and reasoning behind the forces involved. Guidance has been offered regarding the assumptions of massless rope and pulley, as well as the application of Newton's second law. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of acceleration on the forces acting on both students.

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Participants are navigating through multiple parts of the problem, including calculations for force and tension, and are questioning the assumptions about the system's behavior under different conditions. There is a noted lack of complete information on previous calculations and reasoning, which may affect the discussion.

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A rope of negligible mass passes over a pulley of negligible mass attached to the ceiling, as shown above. One end of the rope is held by Student A of mass 70 kg, who is at rest on the floor. The opposite end of the rope is held by Student B of mass 60 kg, who is suspended at rest above the floor.


(b) Calculate the magnitude of the force exerted by the floor on Student A.
(c) Student B now climbs up the rope at a constant acceleration of 0.25 m/s2 with respect to the floor.
Calculate the tension in the rope while Student B is accelerating.

(d) As Student B is accelerating, is Student A pulled upward off the floor? Justify your answer.

(e) With what minimum acceleration must Student B climb up the rope to lift Student A upward off the floor?

i was working on this question for a long time but i kept getting it wrong.
 
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Show us what you've done so far and tell us where you are stuck. Here's a hint: Since the rope is masseless and the pulley is massless and frictionless, there will be a single tension throughout the rope.
 
i am now on part C, i think that since student A and B are both at rest at the first place, student B climbing up just adds another force to the tension, so .25 * mass of student B. = force of tension.
 
Careful. Newton's 2nd law tells you that the net force equals "ma". (Tension is not the only force on B.)
 
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