How Do You Solve Simultaneous Equations Using Quadratic Methods?

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The discussion revolves around solving simultaneous equations using quadratic methods, specifically focusing on two equations: one quadratic and one linear. Participants are exploring how to find the points of intersection between these equations.

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  • Participants discuss using substitution to solve the equations, with some attempting to apply the quadratic formula. There are questions regarding the correct application of the quadratic formula and the handling of variables in the equations.

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There is ongoing exploration of different methods to approach the problem, with some participants providing guidance on substitution and the need to rearrange equations. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach, and multiple interpretations are being considered.

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Participants note the importance of setting the right-hand side of equations to zero before applying the quadratic formula. There are also mentions of previous discussions about notation and variable usage.

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Homework Statement



How do yo solve simultaneos equations?

Homework Equations



Am I right ?


The Attempt at a Solution



y = x2 – 5x + 5 question a



5x + 3y = 30. question b



Find location of points collide?


Add a+b

x2 + 2y -25=0


quadratic formula use

x= -2+ square root(2^2-(4x1x(-25))/2 x = 4.09901

or

x= -2 - square root(2^2-(4x1x(-25))/2 x=-6.09


subsitue y etc
 
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maali5 said:

Homework Statement



How do yo solve simultaneos equations?

Homework Equations



Am I right ?


The Attempt at a Solution



y = x2 – 5x + 5 question a



5x + 3y = 30. question b



Find location of points collide?


Add a+b

x2 + 2y -25=0


quadratic formula use

x= -2+ square root(2^2-(4x1x(-25))/2 x = 4.09901

or

x= -2 - square root(2^2-(4x1x(-25))/2 x=-6.09


subsitue y etc

Looks like you are on the right track...
 
berkeman said:
Looks like you are on the right track...

Cheerio
 
maali5 said:
Add a+b

x2 + 2y -25=0
I would use substitution. You already have equation a solved for y. Plug it into equation b:
5x + 3y = 30
5x + 3(x2 – 5x + 5) = 30
... and so on.
 
berkeman said:
Looks like you are on the right track...

Errrm, if eumyang is on the right track, then I'll eat my hat!

... and I'll post the video of it on youtube.
 
maali5 said:
...

x2 + 2y -25=0

quadratic formula use

x= -2+ square root(2^2-(4x1x(-25))/2, x = 4.09901

or

x= -2 - square root(2^2-(4x1x(-25))/2, x=-6.09

substitute y etc.
You can't use the quadratic formula on x2 + 2y -25=0, because it has two different variables in it.

B.T.W: Yesterday, Mark44 pointed out to you that you should not use the lower case letter, x, to indicate multiplication.
 
Hey ladies ;) + gentleman :)

Now you have "REALLY" lost me.

I went with eumyang- subsituations and this is what I have done.

NB: Allright I WILL USE . FOR MULTIPLY NOW

Ok, let's start

1)

y = x^2 – 5x + 5 question a
5x + 3y = 30. question bFind location of points collide?
Answer;5x + 3(x^2 – 5x + 5) = 30

5x+ 15x^2 -15x+15=30

15x^2-10x+15=30

15x^2-10x -15 = 30

5(3x^2 -2x -3) = 30

use formula

x= 2 + sqrt{40} / 6

x= 1.3874

or

x=2 - sqrt{40} / 6

x= -0.72075Is this the right directions?
 
maali5 said:
...

Answer;
5x + 3(x^2 – 5x + 5) = 30

5x+ 15x^2 -15x+15=30
The coefficient of the x2 term is 3, not 15.
15x^2-10x+15=30

15x^2-10x -15 = 30

5(3x^2 -2x -3) = 30

use formula

x= 2 + sqrt{40} / 6

x= 1.3874

or

x=2 - sqrt{40} / 6

x= -0.72075

Is this the right directions?
Once you get a solution for x, you should go back to an original equation to find y. To check your answer for the pair x & y, you should then plug those values into the other original equation.
 
NascentOxygen said:
Errrm, if eumyang is on the right track, then I'll eat my hat!

... and I'll post the video of it on youtube.

CORRECTION: I intended to write
Errrm, if maali5[/color] is on the right track, then I'll eat my hat!

... and I'll post the video of it on youtube.
 
  • #10
You must make the right hand side = 0 before using the quadratic formula.

Taking as an example: 15x^2 - 10x - 15 = 30

Make RHS=0:

15x^2 - 10x - 15 - 30[/color] = 30 - 30[/color]

x = (10 ± sqrt(100 + 4•15•45)) / 30
 

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