How Do You Solve the Areas Between Curves Problem Involving Unknown Functions?

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The discussion focuses on solving the Areas Between Curves problem involving the functions y=x², y=2x², and y=a², where A represents the area between these curves and B represents the area between y=x² and an unknown function f(x). The key conclusion is that if A=B, then the integral relationship int 0-->a² [y^(1/2)-(y/2)^(1/2)] dy = int 0-->a [x² - f(x)] dx holds true under the conditions f(0)=0 and f(x)≤x² for all a>0. The participants emphasize the importance of verifying the conditions for f(x) and suggest that understanding the properties of integrals is crucial for solving part b of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Let a > 0 be a fixed real number. Define A to be the area bounded between y=x2,y=2x2, and y=a2. Define B to be the area between y = x2, y = f(x), and x = a where f(x) is an unknown function.
a) Show that if f(0) = 0, f(x) ≤ x2, and A = B then

int 0-->a2 [y1/2-(y/2)1/2] dy = int 0--> a [x2 - f(x)] dx

b) Find f(x) under the conditions above are true for all a > 0

Homework Equations



I guess the equations for the lines, y=x2, y=2x2, y=a2
and y=x2, y=f(x), and x=a

The Attempt at a Solution



The first thing I did was try to find the area A.
A= int 0-->a2 [y1/2-(y/2)1/2] dy
A= (2/3)y3/2 - (1/sqrt2)(2/3)y3/2| eval. 0 and a2
A= (2/3)a3 - (1/sqrt2)(2/3)a3
A= a3((2/3) - (1/sqrt2)(2/3))
a= (2/3)a3(1- (1/sqrt2))

Then I tried to find the area B, but this is where I got confused.
B= int 0--> a [x2 - f(x)] dx
B= [(1/3)x3|eval. 0-->a] - [int 0-->a [f(x)]]

I don't see how I can go any farther, because I don't think I can integrate an unknown f(x). Am I going about this the wrong way?
 
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The relation does not require you to interpret the unknown f(x).
Take another look at what you have to show.

If A=B then the relation drops out. The trick is to verify the other two conditions.
 
Are the other conditions f(0)=0 and f(x)≤x2? I don't understand how to verify those, would it have to do with the graph of the region? Since A=B and for A, both of the curves have a point at (0,0) so B must have two points there also?

And how should I go about part b, do I just solve for f(x)?
 
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Are the other conditions f(0)=0 and f(x)≤x2?
Yes.

I don't understand how to verify those, would it have to do with the graph of the region?
Yes.

Since A=B and for A, both of the curves have a point at (0,0) so B must have two points there also?
No.
A=B just means the areas are the same - the graphs do not have to have points in common for that to happen.

i.e. what would happen to the RHS if f(x) > x^2

And how should I go about part b, do I just solve for f(x)?
You should make sure you understand part (a) first, but basically you can separate out the integral in f(x) and use your understanding of the properties of integrals.
 

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