How Do You Solve These Challenging Math Competition Problems?

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The discussion revolves around challenging math competition problems, specifically focusing on inequalities, quadratic equations, and geometric properties of rectangles. Participants are exploring the relationships between variables and the implications of given conditions.

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  • Participants attempt to derive inequalities from absolute value conditions and question the implications of variable relationships.
  • There is an exploration of the conditions under which two quadratic equations share a common solution, with some participants suggesting methods for equating coefficients.
  • Questions arise regarding the counting of circles defined by rectangle vertices, with differing interpretations of how many unique circles can be formed.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problems, particularly in clarifying the conditions for the quadratic equations and the geometric properties of circles in relation to rectangle vertices. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of these conditions, with no explicit consensus reached on all points.

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Participants note that the problems are part of a competition context, which may impose specific constraints on the solutions. There is also mention of a booklet providing answers, leading to further questioning of those answers in relation to the problems posed.

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Homework Statement



#1 If |x -2| < p, where x < 2, then x - p =

i have obtained an inequality at most.


#2 For what value of the coefficient a do the equations x2 -ax + 1 = 0 and x2 - x + a = 0.


#3 Let R be a rectangle. How many circles in the plane of R have a diameter both of whose endpoits are vertices of R?

The Attempt at a Solution



#1 -p < x-2 < p

eventually i obtain:

-2p + 2 < x - p < 2


#2 I have tried solving simultaneously but i have obtained and equation with both a and x.
i have also tried equating coefficients but i obtain a = 1. The actual answer is -2.


#3 is that 6? because there are 6 different ways of joining 2 vertices in the rectangle.



thnks
 
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Kushal said:

Homework Statement



#1 If |x -2| < p, where x < 2, then x - p =

i have obtained an inequality at most.p
That's all you can do. Certainly, given the conditions, x- p is not any specific number. For example, p=2, x= 1 and p= 2, x= 1/2 satisfy the conditions but in the first case x-p= -1 while in the second x-p= -3/2.

#2 For what value of the coefficient a do the equations x2 -ax + 1 = 0 and x2 - x + a = 0.
There is a verb missing! Those equation WHAT? Do you mean "for what value of a" are those equations true for the same x?


#3 Let R be a rectangle. How many circles in the plane of R have a diameter both of whose endpoits are vertices of R?

The Attempt at a Solution



#1 -p < x-2 < p

eventually i obtain:

-2p + 2 < x - p < 2
You haven't used the condition that x< 2. In fact, because of that x-2 is negative, |x-2|= 2- x and, since p is clearly positive, you should have -p< 2- x< p

#2 I have tried solving simultaneously but i have obtained and equation with both a and x.
i have also tried equating coefficients but i obtain a = 1. The actual answer is -2.
What, exactly, is the question? You say the "actual answer" is -2. That would give x2- 2x= 1, which has 1 as its only root and x2- x+ 2 which has complex roots (1/2)+ i and (1/2)- i.


#3 is that 6? because there are 6 different ways of joining 2 vertices in the rectangle.
Yes, that sounds right. Any two points define a circle and there are 6 pairs of points. It is possible that in special cases two or more of those circles would be the same but the general case is 6.


thnks[/QUOTE]
 
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sorry. the question is:

#2 For what value of the coefficient a do the equations x2 -ax + 1 = 0 and x2 - x + a = 0 have a common real solution?for #3 the booklet says the answer is 5. i don't understand how. it is a rectangle. so the pair vertices are all different!thanks!
 
Kushal said:
sorry. the question is:

#2 For what value of the coefficient a do the equations x2 -ax + 1 = 0 and x2 - x + a = 0 have a common real solution?
I see. One solution must be the same, not necessarily both. Try this. Suppose the solutions to the first equation are "u", and "v" while the solutions to the second equation are "u" and "w". Then you must have (x-u)(x-v)= x2- ax+ 1 and (x-u)(x-w)= x2- x+ a. Multiply those out and set like coeficients equal to get 4 equations for u, v, and w. What value of a gives a solution?


for #3 the booklet says the answer is 5. i don't understand how. it is a rectangle. so the pair vertices are all different!
But it is a rectangle and not 4 arbitrary points. Take a look at the 2 circles having diagonally opposite points as ends of diameters.
 
thank you HallsofIvy, i got the solution to #2.

but i still cannot understand how come the two circles with the diagonals of the rectangle as diameter will be the same.
 
The two diagonals of a rectangle have equal length and the same midpoint. A single circle with either diagonal as diameter goes through all four vertices and so has the other diagonal as diameter also.
 

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