How Does a Fixed Point Theorem Explain Convergence in Iterative Methods?

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The discussion centers on the application of fixed point theorems to explain convergence in iterative methods, particularly in the context of sequences generated by fixed-point iteration. Participants explore the mathematical underpinnings of convergence, including continuity and limits, as well as the implications of these concepts in numerical methods.

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  • One participant questions the understanding of a sequence generated by fixed-point iteration and seeks clarification on the relationship between the limits of the sequences.
  • Another participant provides a definition of the iterative process and outlines the assumption that if the limit of the sequence exists, then the limit of the next term in the sequence also converges to the same point, invoking continuity of the function involved.
  • A participant expresses a need for further information regarding specific steps in the mathematical reasoning, indicating a gap in their calculus knowledge.
  • Another participant elaborates on the ε-δ definition of limits and continuity, providing a detailed explanation of the steps involved in proving convergence in the context of the fixed-point iteration.

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Participants appear to be exploring the same mathematical concepts but do not reach a consensus on the clarity of the steps involved in the proof. There is a shared interest in understanding the details, but no definitive agreement on the explanations provided.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about specific calculus concepts and proofs, indicating that there may be missing assumptions or definitions that could clarify the discussion.

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Here I do not perceive the a sequence generated by fixed-point iteration. First would you like to explain this. How can it be that if lim n->∞ pn=P, then lim n-> ∞ Pn+1 ?

Source: Numerical Methods Using Matlab by Kurtis D. Fink and John Matthews.
 
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Your appendix does not say exactly that. But:
  1. pn+1 = g(pn) (definition)
  2. Assume limn→∞pn=P. Then, of course, limn→∞pn+1=P
  3. g(P) =g(limn→∞pn)
  4. g is continuous (supposition). Therefore g(limn→∞pn) = limn→∞g(pn)
  5. By definition (see 1.) limn→∞g(pn) = limn→∞pn+1 =P (from 2.)
  6. 3. and 5. ⇒ g(P) = P.
 
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It seems that I have a little forgotten calculus. Would you like to give more information for step 2 and step 4 in your post. With what topic of calculus are they about and how do we know them. I will search for their proof to best understand.

Thank you.
 
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Would you like to give more information for step 2 and step 4 in your post
Step 2: limn→∞pn=P means "given ε>0, there exists an N such that for all n>N, |pn - P|<ε". And if n>N, obviously (n+1)>N.
Step 4: Again an ε-proof: Since g is continuous, there exists a δ>0 such that |g(P)-g(x)|<ε for all x such that |P-x|<δ. Also, due to step 2, there is an N such that for all n>N, |pn - P|<min(ε, δ). Therefore |g(P)-g(pn)|<ε for n>N, which means that limn→∞g(pn) = g(P) = g( limn→∞pn).
 

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