How does a partially threaded screw exert compressive force across a fracture?

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The discussion centers on how a partially threaded screw, specifically a lag screw, exerts compressive force across a fracture. Participants explore the mechanics involved, comparing it to fully threaded screws and discussing the implications for applications such as woodworking and fracture management.

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  • Some participants describe how a partially threaded screw can compress two materials together by allowing the screw to continue rotating after the head engages, pulling the near material towards the far material.
  • Others explain that if a screw is fully threaded, it would not create compressive force until the head is fully engaged, as the threads would not grip the near material.
  • One participant suggests that the elastic strength of the screw's body generates the inward force when the screw is tightened, raising questions about how this force interacts with the system's equilibrium.
  • There are additional considerations regarding modifications to fully threaded screws, such as making the near hole wider or using different thread pitches to achieve compression.

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Participants generally agree on the mechanics of how a partially threaded screw operates, but there are differing views on the nature of the forces involved and how they contribute to the system's equilibrium.

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Some assumptions about material properties and the specific configurations of screws are not fully explored, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities of the forces at play in the system.

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Hello,
I would be pleased if someone could explain me how a partially threaded screw (lag screw) exerts compressive force across a fracture for instance. I want to know how this is different from a fully threaded screw, i can be very happy if someone could put all the forces in both systems. Thanks in advance.
 
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Are you talking about those screws that are only threaded near the tip?

If that is the case, here is what I think you asked about:

Say you want to attach a thin plank of wood to a thick piece of wood. You would drill a hole through the plank and to some sufficient depth into the thick wood. If you want the screw to compress them together (like the fracture you mentioned), you want the threads to grip only in the thick wood when it is fully screwn in (i.e. the threads should not cross the interface between the two). The threads will then pull the screw into the thick wood and the head of the screw will pull the plank along with it, thus compressing the two parts together.

If the screw had been fully threaded, such a compressive force between the two would not arise. The screw would not pull the thin plank towards the thick wood, since the thin plank is stationary while the thin screw moves through it. That would only happen after the head is fully screwn into the plank, but then the screw can no longer be turned without rotating the plank along with it...

Hope my explanation was understandable...
 
rammbbs is right.

The threads make the screw move into a material converting rotation into translation
The head resists the progression into the material.
If the screw is fully threaded the rate of progress into both materials would be the same, so if there was a between the 2 the gap would never close. When the head engages no further rotation can take place.
However if the thread is only in the far half of the screw, the the screw can continue to rotate when the head engages, and instead of the near part of the screw engaging the material (no threads here), it just spins in its hole, allowing the screw head to drag the the near material towards the far material, cmaking the gap smaller, and later compressing the two together.

There are two extensions to this in fracture management. It is possible to make a fully threaded screw compress the two matrerial together...simple make the near hole wider so the threads do not engae it (but obviously not wider than the head.

The screw can be threaded both ends, but have different pitches. If the far threads have a wider pitch than the near threads, then the far end of the screw will engage the material and travel further into the material than the near threads...resulting in compression as the screw length does not, obviously change.
 
Thanks for your prompt replies. I got completely the point of saiftynet. But i have one part of my original question left. As mentioned by torquil, the threads will be pulling the screw head in. I want to know how that force is generated. Is it some elastic force? In that case, how is it inward? If possible, i want to know the normal reactions of all surfaces and how the entire system is in equilibrium. Thanks in advance.
 
rammbbs7 said:
Is it some elastic force? In that case, how is it inward? If possible.
Exactly, tightening a screw stretches the metal of the screws body - the elastic strength of the body of the screw provides the force.
 

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