How Does a Pulley System Affect Scale Readings?

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The discussion focuses on the effects of a pulley system on scale readings when a child holds a rope connected to a 50N mass via a spring. In static mode, the scale will display 650N due to the tension in the rope counteracting part of the child's weight (700N). When the child pulls the rope to lift the mass, the scale reading decreases further as the tension increases, resulting in a lower weight measurement. The presence of the spring introduces dynamic responses, but the tension remains consistent regardless of whether the mass is directly attached to the rope or suspended by the spring.

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Homework Statement
Impact of pulling a rope connected to a mass through a pulley on the weight reading of that person
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Pulleys, Springs
A kid is standing on a scale and holding a rope that goes through a pulley, on the other side the rope is connected to a spring and then to a 50N mass item.
Assume that the kid's weight is 700N
1. While in static mode - what will the scale show?
2. The kid is now pulling the rope to get the mass higher from the floor - what will be the impact on the scale measurement?



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1. While in static mode, I believe that the scale will show 650 N as the Tension on the rope will counter some of the gravity force
2. While pulling the rope, the scale will show an even lower weight as the Tension in the rope will increase (even though the mass is moving) so the counter-force on gravity will be even higher.
 
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orazon said:
2. While pulling the rope, the scale will show an even lower weight as the Tension in the rope will increase (even though the mass is moving) so the counter-force on gravity will be even higher.
What would be an effect of the spring?
 
Causing an increased tension on the rope?
 
orazon said:
Causing an increased tension on the rope?
Does it make any difference that the mass is on the spring rather than attached to the rope directly?
 
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The tension will still be the same, right?
 
orazon said:
The tension will still be the same, right?
With the spring, the response will be dynamic.
 
orazon said:
The tension will still be the same, right?
It would be good to try this out! Would the spring's response depend on how the rope was pulled? Could this get complicated?
 

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