How Does a Spring's Work Relate to Its Stretch and Constants?

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The discussion revolves around the work done by a spring as it stretches, specifically focusing on a scenario where a spring with a spring constant (k) of 270 N/m stretches by 0.02 m while attached to a 0.55 kg object. Participants are examining the relationship between gravitational potential energy and the work done by the spring.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the assumptions made regarding the forces acting on the spring and the object, particularly the relevance of gravitational potential energy in this context. There are discussions about missing information and the need for a clearer understanding of the energy transformations involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and raising questions about the initial assumptions and the energy balance in the scenario. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conservation of energy and the implications of oscillatory motion, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

There are indications that some information may be missing from the original problem statement, such as the nature of the forces acting on the spring and the object. The participants are also exploring the implications of energy loss during oscillations.

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Homework Statement


How much work is done by the spring on the object as it stretches 0.02m? The spring has a k value of 270N/m and the object is 0.55 kg.


Homework Equations



Ui = Uf - Ws
Ws = 0.5kxf2 - 0.5kxi2

The Attempt at a Solution


Assuming Ui is when the spring isn't stretched.
Uf = Ws
(.55kg)(9.8m/s/s)(-0.2m) = Ws
(.55kg)(9.8m/s/s)(-0.2m) = .5(270N/m)(0.2m)2
Except they aren't equal.
When Ws = 0.5kxf2 - 0.5kxi2 is used, the answer is -0.054J. What is wrong with my first method?
 
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First, there seems to me to be some information missing in your solution attempt. You might want to include a diagram or at the very least state all the values given or calculated.

Second, for some reason you are equating the potential energy of gravity with the work done on the spring. While this may or may not be true, it is irrelevant to the question being asked.
 
The question doesn't mention anything about gravity, only that the spring stretches. Could be some other force doing that. It also doesn't mention that the mass is just allowed to fall... if that were the case it would continue to bounce up and down around the equilibrium point, not settle there.

Anyways, consider the principle of conservation of energy. What's the change in potential energy that the spring undergoes when it's stretched by the given amount?
 
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This was discussed in a similar recent thread. When you allow a mass attached to a spring to fall, it first falls to around double its final steady position. At that point, you can compare the two potential energies.

The only way it can settle to a final steady equilibrium is by continually losing energy with each oscillation until motion ceases. Your energy balance hasn't accounted for that energy lost (mostly as heat, ultimately).
 
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