How Does an Elevator's Acceleration Change Over Time?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem concerning the acceleration of an elevator, which is described by a specific function. Participants are tasked with plotting the position of the elevator, given initial conditions of zero velocity and starting from ground level.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to integrate the acceleration function to derive the velocity and position functions. There are questions about the interpretation of the function and the implications of plotting values for negative time. Some express uncertainty about the graph's behavior and its representation.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with some participants providing guidance on integration and graphing. Questions remain regarding the interpretation of the graph and the behavior of the elevator's position over time, indicating a productive dialogue without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of starting the graph at t=0 and question the relevance of negative time values. There is also a discussion about the meaning of the y-axis in the context of the problem.

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I need help getting started with this problem. Thanks.

Homework Statement



The acceleration of an elevator changes at a rate give by the function

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2739/mathzy2.jpg

Plot the position of the elevator assuming that its velocity at t=0 is zero and the elevator starts moving from a zero ground level.

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The Attempt at a Solution

 
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Are you in a calculus-based physics course? The problem sounds like it calls on you to integrate this acceleration function to find the velocity function, then to integrate that to find a positive function, given that v(0) = 0 and x(0) = 0.

This will be harder to deal with if you have to do it only graphically.
 
I could use integration to solve this, then I have to use the values to plot a graph.
Still need help staring this problem. Thanks.
 
Prathep said:
I could use integration to solve this, then I have to use the values to plot a graph.

So wouldn't you be plotting the values of x(t) for different times? Also, is e in that function supposed to be 2.71828... ? So you have all the information you need to find the position function and calculate positions, no?
 
e = 2.71828183

I have integrated the acceleration equation twice to find out position. Then I plotted the equation on Maple and i got this graph, Can someone tell weather this is correct or incorrect way of addressing this problem. I also can't understand the Graph, according to the graph it says the the position of the elevator increases exponential after 5 second. Can someone explain the graph to me. Thanks

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3210/mattttttsr1.png
 
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- First of all it does not make sense to plot the position time graph for negative time values. You should graph the position function for t>=0

- Secondly as for explaining the graph for positive t values note the following:
The elevator at t = 0 starts at about 14 units away from the origin of your frame of reference and for t = 4 it will come towards the origin and then for t>4 it will move away from the origin.
 
Thanks for the reply

-The reason i plotted the graph for negative values is to get a perspective of what is happening.

-Is the "y axis" referring to the floor number?

-Also why is it moving away from the orgin at a expoential rate?
 

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