How does Andromeda look from just a set of 10x50 binoculars.

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The discussion centers on the visual experience of observing the Andromeda galaxy (M31) through 10x50 binoculars. Participants share their personal observations, expectations, and comparisons with photographic representations, exploring the differences between visual and photographic views of deep-sky objects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their experience trying to locate Andromeda, noting uncertainty about whether they found it and expressing a desire to understand what to expect visually.
  • Another participant suggests that Andromeda appears as a grey oval with a brighter center, indicating that more details may be discernible with practice.
  • A different participant states that Andromeda will look like a "fuzzy blob" of varying brightness, emphasizing that it will be dim and lacking detail, but still noticeable against a dark sky.
  • Some participants share images to illustrate what one might expect to see, acknowledging that the images may not accurately represent the visual experience.
  • There is a discussion about the limitations of photographs compared to visual observations, with one participant noting that many photos of M31 are overly enhanced compared to what is seen through binoculars.

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Participants express varying expectations about the appearance of Andromeda through binoculars, with no consensus on how it compares to other viewing methods or photographic representations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact visual characteristics one might observe.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the visibility of Andromeda can depend on factors such as light pollution and the observer's experience. There are also mentions of different equipment used for capturing images, which may influence perceptions of what to expect visually.

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Tonight was an amazing night for stargazing so I drove about 10 minutes to a nice countryside road with barely any lights.

It was really dark, and you could see a faint glow of the milky way. I had some apps to help me locate various galaxies and etc. and I wanted to see Andromeda but I couldn't find it anywhere. I even poinited them right where the apps told me it would be.

I know what andromeda looks like from pictures, but I obviously won't have the same view as those Nasa pictures, so I'm just trying to get a general idea of what I'm looking at, so I know for a fact it's what I saw.

Tonight, I'm pretty sure I found it, but again, I didn't know what it would look like so I couldn't tell if it was it.
 
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For a beginner it mostly looks like a grey oval, brighter in the middle. With practice one can probably see a few more details.

Last year I took an image of the area around the Andromeda galaxy that includes the star Mirach (lower left corner - big, bright and orange). It's a 90 min exposure so it's much deeper than any visual telescope but it might help. When i find M31, I start at Mirach and follow the two fainter stars "above" it (1 o'clock in the image) to the galaxy.

http://www.astronet.se/view_image.php?id=2310
 
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Like practically all deep sky objects that are not stars, Andromeda will look like a "fuzzy blob" of varying brightness depending on what you are looking at it through. It will be very dim, but if you are in a decent dark sky location then it will stand out quite obviously from the background. You won't be able to make out any detail though, it will literally look like a fuzzy blob.

Edit: Nice picture Glappkaeft. I need to get a smaller focal length telescope, all mine have focal lengths beyond 1,000 mm, so I can't fit Andromeda in my camera's field of view.
 
Perhaps this picture will tell you more or less of what to expect:

andromeda.jpg


(Not because it is good, quite the opposite. But as far as I remember it more or less reflects the blurry and hard to spot spot; just remember sky will be MUCH darker.)
 
Borek said:
Perhaps this picture will tell you more or less of what to expect:

andromeda.jpg


(Not because it is good, quite the opposite. But as far as I remember it more or less reflects the blurry and hard to spot spot; just remember sky will be MUCH darker.)

BoreK, did you get that shot by yourself? What did you use?
 
PhysicoRaj said:
BoreK, did you get that shot by yourself? What did you use?

EOS 7D, but any reasonably good SLR camera will do. ISO 1600, 30 sec, f 2.8, 55 mm.

Non-SLR camera with similar parameters should work as well.
 
Drakkith said:
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Edit: Nice picture Glappkaeft. I need to get a smaller focal length telescope, all mine have focal lengths beyond 1,000 mm, so I can't fit Andromeda in my camera's field of view.


Indeed !
sweet pic, well done
gosh, I haven't seen M31 for years

Dave
 
Borek said:
EOS 7D, but any reasonably good SLR camera will do. ISO 1600, 30 sec, f 2.8, 55 mm.

Non-SLR camera with similar parameters should work as well.

You say this is how a 10x50 shows? Well, that's even better than my 60mm 35x refractor!
 
PhysicoRaj said:
You say this is how a 10x50 shows?

Never said that, no idea how to compare these things. All I was trying to show was what to look for and what to expect in the sky. Most photos of M31 are way too good when compared to the real thing.
 

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