How does brain activity affect energy usage?

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The discussion revolves around the energy usage of the brain during various activities, such as sleeping, watching TV, solving physics problems, and running a marathon. Participants explore how different cognitive and physical tasks may influence the brain's energy requirements and the underlying mechanisms involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the energy requirements of the brain during different activities, suggesting that more active brain states may correlate with increased energy usage due to electron transfer.
  • Another participant references a study indicating that the brain uses a significant portion of its energy for neuronal signaling and housekeeping functions, though the exact energy demands for specific activities in humans remain uncertain.
  • A participant speculates that the "housekeeping" energy demand might be relatively constant and influenced by external factors like physical activity and environmental conditions.
  • Concerns are raised about the activity of an anesthetized brain, questioning whether it would exhibit any electrical impulses or if it would be entirely inactive.
  • Discussion includes the roles of neurotransmitters like glutamate and GABA in energy usage and the complexity of cellular processes in the central nervous system.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the definition of "anesthetize," emphasizing that it refers to a state of consciousness rather than complete brain inactivity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of anesthesia on brain activity and the nature of consciousness, indicating that multiple competing perspectives exist without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the applicability of findings from animal studies to human brain energy usage, and the discussion acknowledges the complexity of brain functions and energy demands that remain poorly understood.

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I'm curious to know how much energy a brain will use depending on the different activities it's doing.

Sleeping vs. watching TV vs. doing rigorous physics problems vs. running a marathon

For the above activities, what are the different energy requirements like?

How do the things you're thinking about translate into energy usage?

I assume the more active your brain is, the more electron transfer there will be, which means more energy will be required. I don't know details for any of this.
 
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I'm not sure if exact studies have been completed for humans, but you can read this.

It is well established that the brain uses more energy than any other human organ, accounting for up to 20 percent of the body's total haul. Until now, most scientists believed that it used the bulk of that energy to fuel electrical impulses that neurons employ to communicate with one another. Turns out, though, that is only part of the story.

A new study in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA indicates that two thirds of the brain's energy budget is used to help neurons or nerve cells "fire'' or send signals. The remaining third, however, is used for what study co-author Wei Chen, a radiologist at the University of Minnesota Medical School, refers to as "housekeeping," or cell-health maintenance.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-does-the-brain-need-s

The abstract - http://www.pnas.org/content/105/17/6409
 
Interesting. Well I'm going to assume that the "housekeeping" energy demand is fairly constant regardless of usage. I'd guess that "housekeeping" would be more dependent on physical activity and surroundings (temp, humidity, etc).

I can't read through the article right now, but one thing in the abstract stood out.

It mentioned rat brain conditions used in the test.

Would an anesthetized brain have any activity at all? I know it still tells the body to keep going, but as far as other electrical impulses go, would it be completely blank?
 
neurontransmitters glutamate and GABA are the primary excitatory and inhibitory signals in the brain. These both are derived from glutamine, which is a big part of the body's energy system (through glucose). There's hundreds of biomolecular networks that lead to thing like transcription too. The CNS has a lot of work to do on the cellular level, some of it special to neurons, some to astrocytes, and they all integrate together with signaling in complex (and still not well understood) ways. Then there's also the electrical signals everybody things about when they think of CNS regulation.

@pastabear
anesthetize just means to deprive one of consciousness. It does not shut down the brain so much as change it's state to a sleeping state. You definitely don't want to shut down your hindbrain, where autonomous functions are regulated. But the conscious parts of our brain, anyway, aren't the whole brain. Consciousness isn't a matter of a particular chunk of brain running, but how all the chunks of brain are working together. Unconsciousness, too, is just a matter of how all the chunks of brain are working together. Some parts get inhibited, some get excited, but nothing really completely shuts down. It's a matter of pushing many different breaks and accelerators to varying degrees in many different parts of a system: the system can be in several different states, none of them "blank" but not all of them "conscious" either. And some of them maybe even between a state of "conscious" and "unconscious" (like dreaming).
 
Pythagorean said:
anesthetize just means to deprive one of consciousness.
It means to block sensation, not block consciousness.
 
In the context of an anesthesiologist, it means consciousness. It also gets used for numbing agents ("local anesthetic") but that's not something you do to the brain, or need to be an anesthesiologist to do.

Anyway, it's a jusfiable definition in the context. Also, Try googling "define: anesthetize".
 

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