How Does Carbon-12 Have a Lower Rest Energy Than Its Separate Nucleons?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of binding energy in nuclear physics, specifically focusing on why carbon-12 has a lower rest energy compared to its individual nucleons (protons and neutrons). The original poster expresses confusion regarding the relationship between mass and rest energy as described by E=mc².

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster questions how the total mass of carbon-12 can equal 12 u despite the individual masses of protons and neutrons being greater than 1 u. Some participants suggest that mass is converted to energy during the bonding process, which contributes to the lower mass of the bound system.

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Participants are exploring the concept of nuclear binding energy and its implications for mass and energy. Some have indicated that further reading has clarified their understanding, while others emphasize the importance of consulting textbooks and reliable sources for complex topics.

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There is an emphasis on not seeking direct solutions prematurely, as this could undermine the learning process. Participants are encouraged to engage with the material and clarify their understanding before arriving at conclusions.

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Homework Statement


"You might wonder how six protons and six neutrons, each having a mass larger than 1 u, can be combined with six electrons to form a carbon-12 atom having a mass of exactly 12 u. The bound system of carbon-12 has a lower rest energy than that of six separate protons and six separate neutrons. According to E=mc^2, this lower rest energy corresponds to a smaller mass for the bound system. The difference in mass accounts for the binding energy when the particles are combined to form the nucleus."

Homework Equations


E=mc^2
1amu= 1.660539e-27 kg

The Attempt at a Solution


I came across this passage in my textbook, and I'm having difficulty in seeing how the rest energy for carbon-12 can be lower than that of six separate protons or six separate neutrons. My understanding is that the more mass the greater the rest energy.
 
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As a little hint...
To solve your confusion on how the total mass can be equal to 12u, when the protons are bonded, some of their mass is expended as energy for the bonding, resulting in the 12u.
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Thank you! (: I just finished reading up on nuclear binding energy, and it has become a lot clearer now.
 
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fridakahlo said:
Thank you! (: I just finished reading up on nuclear binding energy, and it has become a lot clearer now.
Great Job! :smile:
Always to be sure to check your textbook for topics that are somewhat confusing or which you are not particularly sure on, and if that doesn't work it is always fine to look up the term itself on the browser. Heads up, make sure not to simply look up the solution until you have an answer you are somewhat confident about. Not doing this results in all your previous work on the problem turning obsolete.
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