How Does Changing Planetary Size and Orbit Radius Affect Gravitational Forces?

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The discussion revolves around gravitational forces in relation to changes in planetary size and orbit radius. Participants explore how these changes affect weight and gravitational attraction, referencing Newton's law of gravitation and Kepler's laws.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the implications of increasing planetary radius on weight and gravitational forces, questioning how mass changes with radius when density is constant. They explore the relationship between gravitational attraction and distance, as well as the mathematical representation of these concepts.

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There is an ongoing exploration of how to approach the problems presented. Participants are sharing insights and questioning assumptions about mass, density, and gravitational force, but no consensus has been reached on the specific calculations or interpretations.

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Participants are considering the implications of constant density and how it relates to changes in mass and volume as the radius increases. The discussion also touches on the need for clarification on formulas related to weight and gravitational force.

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Homework Statement



1. Suppose you leave the solar system and arrive at a planet that has the same mass per unit volume as the Earth but has 10 times the Earth's radius. What would you weigh on this planet compared with what you weigh on Earth ??

2. Suppose that Kepler had found that the period of a planet's circular orbit is proportional to the square of the orbit radius. What conclusion would Newton have drawn concerning the dependence of the gravitational attraction on distance between two masses.

Homework Equations



F= -Gm1m2/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution



1. So I use Newton's law of gravitational and get you weigh 1/100 (radius is 10, square is 100) as you do on Earth. I am wrong. So how should I approach this problem ?

2. Can you guys hint me how should I do this one ?
 
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nns91 said:

Homework Statement



1. Suppose you leave the solar system and arrive at a planet that has the same mass per unit volume as the Earth but has 10 times the Earth's radius. What would you weigh on this planet compared with what you weigh on Earth ??

2. Suppose that Kepler had found that the period of a planet's circular orbit is proportional to the square of the orbit radius. What conclusion would Newton have drawn concerning the dependence of the gravitational attraction on distance between two masses.

Homework Equations



F= -Gm1m2/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution



1. So I use Newton's law of gravitational and get you weigh 1/100 (radius is 10, square is 100) as you do on Earth. I am wrong. So how should I approach this problem ?

2. Can you guys hint me how should I do this one ?

2 things changed. Radius and what else?
 
Radius change so mass will change too right ??
 
nns91 said:
Radius change so mass will change too right ??

Correct.

How does the total mass change with the radius if the density is a constant?

And of course the distance from the center changes directly with the radius.
 
Mass changes at the same rate as radius does. Right ?
 
nns91 said:
Mass changes at the same rate as radius does. Right ?

What is the formula for that?
 
So F= -Gm(10M)/ 100R^2 ??
 
nns91 said:
So F= -Gm(10M)/ 100R^2 ??

No what is the formula for the mass given the density?

Isn't that Mass = density * volume?
 
Oh yeah, I misunderstood you.

but how can this help with finding your weight ?
 
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nns91 said:
Oh yeah, I misunderstood you.

but how can this help with finding your weight ?

What is the volume of a sphere again?
 
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V= 4/3*pi*r^3
 
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nns91 said:
V= 4/3*pi*r^3

So that means then that M ∝ r3 ?
 

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