How Does Conformal Transformation Affect Curve Types in General Relativity?

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This discussion revolves around a problem in General Relativity concerning conformal transformations and their effects on the nature of curves in a pseudo-Riemannian manifold. The original poster is exploring whether a null curve remains null after a conformal transformation of the metric tensor.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to demonstrate that a null curve remains null under a conformal transformation by manipulating the metric tensor. Some participants question the implications for timelike curves and whether the transformation affects their classification.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and affirmations regarding the original poster's reasoning. There is a focus on clarifying the relationship between the original and transformed metrics, as well as the implications for different types of curves.

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Participants are considering the specific properties of the conformal transformation and its impact on the geometry of the manifold, while also noting that the transformation does not alter the coordinates of points in the manifold.

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Hi. This problem is about General Relativity. I am not actually taking a course, but studying myself. I tried to solve Hobson 2.7:

Homework Statement


A conformal transformation is not a change of coordinates but an actual change in
the geometry of a manifold such that the metric tensor transforms as [itex]\bar{g}_{ab}(x)=\Omega^2(x) g_{ab}(x)[/itex], where [itex]\Omega (x)[/itex] is some non-vanishing scalar function of position. In a pseudo-Riemannian manifold, show that if [itex]x^a(\lambda)[/itex] is a null curve with respect to [itex]g_{ab}[/itex] (i.e. [itex]ds^2=0[/itex] along the curve), then it is also a null curve with respect to [itex]\bar{g}_{ab}[/itex]. Is this true for timelike curves?

Homework Equations



for null curves:
[tex] ds^2=g_{\mu \nu} \frac{dx^\mu}{d\lambda} \frac{dx^\nu}{d\lambda} (d\lambda)^2=0<br /> \\<br /> \therefore g_{\mu \nu} \frac{dx^\mu}{d\lambda} \frac{dx^\nu}{d\lambda}=0[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


after the conformal transformation, we have
[tex] ds^2=\Omega^2 g_{\mu \nu}dx^\mu dx^\nu<br /> =g_{\mu \nu}(\Omega dx^\mu) (\Omega dx^\nu)[/tex]
and along the path [itex]x^\mu(\lambda)[/itex]:

[tex] ds^2=g_{\mu \nu} \left[\frac{d}{d\lambda}(\Omega dx^\mu) \frac{d}{d\lambda}(\Omega dx^\nu) \right] (d\lambda)^2<br /> <br /> \\=g_{\mu \nu}\left(\frac{d\Omega}{d\lambda}dx^\mu +\Omega \frac{dx^\mu}{d\lambda} \right)<br /> \left(\frac{d\Omega}{d\lambda}dx^\nu +\Omega \frac{dx^\nu}{d\lambda} \right) (d\lambda)^2<br /> <br /> \\=g_{\mu \nu} \left\{ \left(\frac{d\Omega}{d\lambda}\right)^2 dx^\mu dx^\nu<br /> +\Omega \frac{d\Omega}{d\lambda} \left(dx^\mu \frac{dx^\nu}{d\lambda} + \frac{dx^\mu}{d\lambda} dx^\nu \right) +\Omega^2 \frac{dx^\mu}{d\lambda} \frac{dx^\nu}{d\lambda} \right\} (d\lambda)^2<br /> <br /> \\= g_{\mu \nu} \left\{ \left(\frac{d\Omega}{d\lambda}\right)^2 \frac{dx^\mu}{d\lambda} \frac{dx^\nu}{d\lambda} (d\lambda)^4<br /> + 2\Omega \frac{d\Omega}{d\lambda} \left(\frac{dx^\mu}{d\lambda} \frac{dx^\nu}{d\lambda} \right) (d\lambda)^3<br /> + \Omega^2 \frac{dx^\mu}{d\lambda} \frac{dx^\nu}{d\lambda} (d\lambda)^2 \right\}<br /> <br /> \\= \left( g_{\mu \nu} \frac{dx^\mu}{d\lambda} \frac{dx^\nu}{d\lambda} \right) <br /> \left( \left(\frac{d\Omega}{d\lambda}\right)^2(d\lambda)^2+ 2\Omega \frac{d\Omega}{d\lambda}d\lambda +\Omega^2 \right)(d\lambda)^2 = 0[/tex]

now in the last line, the first term vanishes because of the null curve for the original [itex]g_{\mu \nu}[/itex], so the whole [itex]ds^2[/itex] after the transformation vanishes, which means it is a null curve.

Is this solution correct?
 
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Hello, spookyfish.

It seems to me to be more straightforward. Before the transformation you have a curve for which any infinitesimal displacement ##dx^\mu## along the curve satisfies
[tex] ds^2= g_{\mu \nu}dx^\mu dx^\nu<br /> = 0[/tex]
After the transformation you have a new metric ##\overline{g}_{\mu \nu} = \Omega^2 g_{\mu \nu}##. But the spacetime coordinates of points in the manifold have not changed their values.

So, what is the value of ##d\overline{s}^2= \overline{g}_{\mu \nu}dx^\mu dx^\nu## for the same ##dx^\mu##?
 
The value would be
[tex] d\bar{s}^2 =\Omega^2 g_{\mu \nu} dx^\mu dx^\nu [/tex]
but we need to check [itex]d\bar{s}^2[/itex] of a curve. Can I say that
[tex] d\bar{s}^2 =\Omega^2 g_{\mu \nu} \frac{dx^\mu}{d\lambda} \frac{dx^\nu}{d\lambda} (d\lambda)^2=0 [/tex]
because [itex]g_{\mu \nu} \frac{dx^\mu}{d\lambda} \frac{dx^\nu}{d\lambda} (d\lambda)^2=ds^2=0[/itex]?
Also, using this would not imply that timelike curves and spacelike curves remain the same, because [itex]\Omega^2[/itex] doesn't change the sign of [itex]ds^2[/itex]?
 
Yes, that all sounds correct.

I don't see the need to explicitly introduce the curve parameter ##\lambda##, because ##d\bar{s}^2 =\Omega^2 g_{\mu \nu} dx^\mu dx^\nu## and ##d\bar{s}^2 =\Omega^2 g_{\mu \nu} \frac{dx^\mu}{d\lambda} \frac{dx^\nu}{d\lambda} (d\lambda)^2## have the same value. But, you can if you want.
 
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