Find the tensor that carries out a transformation

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The discussion revolves around a tensor transformation involving differential forms and tensor calculus, specifically focusing on the transformation of coordinates and the associated tensorial quantities. Participants are examining the mathematical expressions related to the transformation and the implications of certain terms within those expressions.

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  • Participants are attempting to manipulate expressions involving differentials and tensors, questioning the presence of certain terms like '1' in the numerator and its implications for the transformation. There are discussions about the correct interpretation of indices and the need to revisit foundational concepts in tensor calculus.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and corrections to each other's reasoning. Some have suggested that certain terms should not be present and have pointed out potential errors in the manipulation of expressions. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of assumptions regarding the metric tensor.

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Participants are navigating complex expressions and assumptions, such as the relationship between the metric tensor and the transformation being analyzed. There is a focus on ensuring that the mathematical manipulations adhere to the principles of tensor calculus.

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Homework Statement
Following the non-linear transformation of coordinates (conformal transformation)
##x'^{\mu}=\frac{x^{\mu}-x^2a^{\mu}}{1-2a_{\nu}x^{\nu}+a^2x^2}##
with ##a^{\mu}## constant four-vector, the relativistic line element is transformed (obviously) in the following way
##g_{\mu \nu}dx'^{\mu}dx'^{\nu}=K_{\mu \nu}dx^{\mu}dx^{\nu}##
Relevant Equations
Tensor calculus
I got stuck in this calculation, I can't collect everything in terms of ##dx^{\mu}##.

##x'^{\mu}=\frac{x^{\mu}-x^2a^{\mu}}{1-2a_{\nu}x^{\nu}+a^2x^2}##

##x'^{\mu}=\frac{x^{\mu}-g_{\alpha \beta}x^{\alpha}x^{\beta}a^{\mu}}{1-2a_{\nu}x^{\nu}+a^2g_{\alpha \beta}x^{\alpha}x^{\beta}}##

##dx'^{\mu}=\frac{dx^{\mu}-a^{\mu}g_{\alpha \beta}(dx^{\alpha}x^{\beta}+x^{\alpha}dx^{\beta})}{1-2a_{\nu}x^{\nu}+a^2g_{\alpha \beta}x^{\alpha}x^{\beta}}-\frac{(x^{\mu}-x^2a^{\mu})(1-2a_{\nu}dx^{\nu}+a^2g_{\alpha \beta}(dx^{\alpha}x^{\beta}+x^{\alpha}dx^{\beta})}{(1-2a_{\nu}x^{\nu}+a^2x^2)^2}##

##dx'^{\mu}=\frac{dx^{\mu}-2dx\cdot xa^{\mu}}{1-2a_{\nu}x^{\nu}+a^2g_{\alpha \beta}x^{\alpha}x^{\beta}}-\frac{(x^{\mu}-x^2a^{\mu})(1-2a\cdot dx+2a^2dx \cdot x)}{(1-2a_{\nu}x^{\nu}+a^2x^2)^2}##

##dx'^{\mu}=\frac{(1-2x_{\mu}a^{\mu})dx^{\mu}}{1-2a_{\nu}x^{\nu}+a^2g_{\alpha \beta}x^{\alpha}x^{\beta}}-\frac{(x^{\mu}-x^2a^{\mu})(1-(2a_{\mu} -2a^2 x_{\mu})dx^{\mu})}{(1-2a_{\nu}x^{\nu}+a^2x^2)^2}##

I stop here, because in the second fraction there is that 1 in the numerator that I don't know how to collect with respect to ##dx^{\mu}##.

I suppose to express ##1## as ##\frac{dx_{\mu}dx^{\mu}}{\sqrt{dx^2}}## but I don't know if is it correct because I leave inside the ##K_{\mu \nu}## this term ##\frac{dx_{\mu}}{\sqrt{dx^2}}##
 
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That 1 that is causing the problem should not be there.
It disappears in line 3 because the differential of the denominator is
$$-2a_{\nu}dx^{\nu}+a^2g_{\alpha \beta}(dx^{\alpha}x^{\beta}+x^{\alpha}dx^{\beta})
$$
because the derivative of 1 with respect to any variable is 0.
 
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To add to andrewkirk: your expression contains mu both as free index and dummy index. In combination with the fact that the 1 without indices should ring alarmbells, you should probably go back to the basics of tensor calculus before considering conformal transformations.
 
andrewkirk said:
That 1 that is causing the problem should not be there.
It disappears in line 3 because the differential of the denominator is
$$-2a_{\nu}dx^{\nu}+a^2g_{\alpha \beta}(dx^{\alpha}x^{\beta}+x^{\alpha}dx^{\beta})
$$
because the derivative of 1 with respect to any variable is 0.
Is there an assumption here that ##g_{\alpha \beta} = \eta_{\alpha \beta}##?
 
andrewkirk said:
That 1 that is causing the problem should not be there.
It disappears in line 3 because the differential of the denominator is
$$-2a_{\nu}dx^{\nu}+a^2g_{\alpha \beta}(dx^{\alpha}x^{\beta}+x^{\alpha}dx^{\beta})
$$
because the derivative of 1 with respect to any variable is 0.
Damn, you're right.

##dx'^{\mu}=\frac{(1-2x_{\mu}a^{\mu})dx^{\mu}}{1-2a_{\nu}x^{\nu}+a^2x^2}-\frac{(x^{\mu}-x^2a^{\mu})(2a^2 x_{\mu}-2a_{\mu})dx^{\mu}}{(1-2a_{\nu}x^{\nu}+a^2x^2)^2}##

##dx'^{\mu}=(\frac{1-2x_{\mu}a^{\mu}}{1-2a_{\nu}x^{\nu}+a^2x^2}-\frac{(x^{\mu}-x^2a^{\mu})(2a^2 x_{\mu}-2a_{\mu})}{(1-2a_{\nu}x^{\nu}+a^2x^2)^2})dx^{\mu}##

Renaming

##Q = 1-2a_{\nu}x^{\nu}+a^2x^2##

## dx'^{\mu}=\Big[\frac{1-2x \cdot a}{Q}-\frac{4x^2a^2-2x \cdot a -2x^2 a^2 x \cdot a}{Q^2}\Big]dx^{\mu} ##

## dx'^{\mu}=\frac{1-2 x \cdot a + x^2 a^2 -2 x \cdot a + 4(x \cdot a)^2 -2x^2 a^2 x \cdot a -4 x^2 a^2 +2 x \cdot a + 2 x^2 a^2 x \cdot a }{Q^2}dx^{\mu} ##

## dx'^{\mu}=\frac{1-2 x \cdot a + 4(x \cdot a)^2 -3 x^2 a^2}{Q^2}dx^{\mu} ##

## dx'^{\mu}=\frac{(1-2 x \cdot a)^2 -3 x^2 a^2}{Q^2}dx^{\mu} = \frac{(1-2 x \cdot a)^2 -3 x^2 a^2}{(1-2a \cdot x+a^2x^2)^2}dx^{\mu}##

Now I think I have done the right math. I just have to apply the initial definition and verify that:

##g_{\mu \nu}dx'^{\mu}dx'^{\nu}=K_{\mu \nu}dx^{\mu}dx^{\nu}##

So I have:

## K_{\mu \nu}=\Big[ \frac{(1-2 x \cdot a)^2 -3 x^2 a^2}{(1-2a \cdot x+a^2x^2)^2} \Big]^2g_{\mu \nu} ##

Is it correct?
 
Frostman said:
So I have:
K_{\mu \nu}=\Big[ \frac{(1-2 x \cdot a)^2 -3 x^2 a^2}{(1-2a \cdot x+a^2x^2)^2} \Big]^2g_{\mu \nu}
Is it correct?
No, it is not correct. You have \bar{x}^{\mu} = K(x) (x^{\mu} + b^{\mu}x^{2}), \ \ \ \ \ (1a) where K(x) = \frac{1}{1 + 2 b \cdot x + b^{2}x^{2}} . \ \ \ \ \ \ (1b)

So, g_{\mu\nu} \ d\bar{x}^{\mu} \ d\bar{x}^{\nu} = g_{\mu\nu} \frac{\partial \bar{x}^{\mu}}{\partial x^{\rho}}\frac{\partial \bar{x}^{\nu}}{\partial x^{\sigma}} \ dx^{\rho} \ dx^{\sigma} . Thus K_{\rho\sigma} = g_{\mu\nu} \ \frac{\partial \bar{x}^{\mu}}{\partial x^{\rho}}\frac{\partial \bar{x}^{\nu}}{\partial x^{\sigma}} . \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ (2) Now, from (1) you find \frac{\partial \bar{x}^{\mu}}{\partial x^{\rho}} = K(x) \left( \delta^{\mu}_{\rho} + 2b^{\mu}x_{\rho} - \frac{2(x^{\mu} + b^{\mu}x^{2})(b_{\rho} + b^{2}x_{\rho})}{1 + 2 b \cdot x + b^{2}x^{2}}\right) . If we define the matrix \Lambda^{\mu}{}_{\rho} (x,b) = \delta^{\mu}_{\rho} + 2b^{\mu}x_{\rho} - \frac{2(x^{\mu} + b^{\mu}x^{2})(b_{\rho} + b^{2}x_{\rho})}{1 + 2 b \cdot x + b^{2}x^{2}} , \ \ \ (3) then \frac{\partial \bar{x}^{\mu}}{\partial x^{\rho}} = K(x) \Lambda^{\mu}{}_{\rho} (x,b). Thus, Eq.(2) becomes K_{\rho\sigma} = K^{2}(x) \Lambda^{\mu}{}_{\rho} \ \Lambda^{\nu}{}_{\sigma} \ g_{\mu\sigma} . \ \ \ \ (4) So, the problem reduced to finding the properties of the local matrix \Lambda (x,b). To do this, it is sufficient to take the parameters b^{\mu} to be very small, i.e., in Eq.(3), set b^{2} \approx b^{3} \approx \cdots \approx 0: \Lambda^{\mu}{}_{\rho} \approx \delta^{\mu}_{\rho} + 2 b^{\mu} \ x_{\rho} - 2 b_{\rho} \ x^{\mu} . So, to first order in b^{\mu} we have \Lambda^{\mu}{}_{\rho} (x , b) = \delta^{\mu}_{\rho} + 2 g_{\rho \tau} (b^{\mu}x^{\tau} - b^{\tau}x^{\mu}) . Now, if you define \omega^{\mu\tau} \equiv 2 (b^{\mu}x^{\tau} - b^{\tau}x^{\mu}) = - \omega^{\tau \mu} , then \Lambda^{\mu}{}_{\rho} = \delta^{\mu}_{\rho} + g_{\rho\tau}\omega^{\mu\tau} = \delta^{\mu}_{\rho} + \omega^{\mu}{}_{\rho} . Using this expression for \Lambda, you can easily show that g_{\mu\nu}\Lambda^{\mu}{}_{\rho} \ \Lambda^{\nu}{}_{\sigma} = g_{\rho\sigma} . Finally, substituting this result in Eq.(4), you get K_{\rho\sigma} = K^{2}(x) \ g_{\rho\sigma} .
 
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