How Does Current Direction Affect Magnetic Field Orientation?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between the direction of current in a wire and the resulting orientation of the magnetic field. The original poster describes a scenario where the current flows from east to west and seeks to understand the magnetic field direction below the wire.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the right-hand thumb rule to determine the magnetic field direction. There are questions about the interpretation of the plane in which the current and magnetic field are situated, with some participants seeking clarification on the definitions of cardinal directions in relation to the setup.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the correct application of the right-hand rule and the implications of the current's direction. Some participants are attempting to reconcile their findings with the expected answer, while others are providing insights into the orientation of the magnetic field relative to the wire and the plane of the paper.

Contextual Notes

Participants are addressing potential ambiguities regarding the orientation of the paper and the definitions of directions in a three-dimensional context. The original poster expresses difficulty in aligning their understanding of the magnetic field direction with the expected outcome.

Suyash Singh

Homework Statement



current in wire is in east to west direction.direction of magneetic field below the line

Homework Equations


right hand thumb rule

The Attempt at a Solution


i used the right hand thumb rule to find the direction of magnetic field but the magnetic field comes out in in the upwards direction(out of plane) but the answer is in the south direction
my answer -upwards
real answer-south

Thankyou
 
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Suyash Singh said:

Homework Statement



current in wire is in east to west direction.direction of magneetic field below the line

Homework Equations


right hand thumb rule

The Attempt at a Solution


i used the right hand thumb rule to find the direction of magnetic field but the magnetic field comes out in in the upwards direction(out of plane) but the answer is in the south direction
my answer -upwards
real answer-south

Thankyou
East to West defines a line, what plane do you speak about?
 
Suyash Singh said:
in in the upwards direction(out of plane)
Plane of the paper?
I think your answer is right.
 
cnh1995 said:
Plane of the paper?
I think your answer is right.
The paper can be horizontal, vertical, or can stand in any direction.

East, West, North, South are defined in a horizontal plane.
The magnetic field lines are circles around the wire, with the wire as axis. Take a pencil as wire and do the right thumb rule in reality. In what direction do your fingers point under the wire?
This is a very bad drawing, I was not able to make a better one. The wire and the cardinal directions are in the horizontal plane.
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ehild said:
East to West defines a line, what plane do you speak about?
the plane of paper since north south east west are in plane of paper.
 
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this is the answer but my fingers are coming out of the plane of paper
like this
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and this the actual question
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I could get the numerical answer but not the the direction
 
Suyash Singh said:
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this is the answer but my fingers are coming out of the plane of paper
like this
View attachment 206878
and this the actual question
View attachment 206879
I could get the numerical answer but not the the direction
Your fingers come out of the paper beside the wire or above it. Just under the wire the fingers stand in the North-West direction, and having short fingers, the tips would point to the South. The green vector represents the direction of the magnetic field under the wire.
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This is a side view:

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