How Does Electrode Concentration Affect Polarity in a Gold Battery?

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The discussion centers on the effects of electrode concentration on polarity in a gold battery, specifically when using gold as both the anode and cathode with varying concentrations of Au+. Participants explore the implications for electron flow and ion movement in this setup.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the expected behavior of the battery, asking for clarification on which electrode would act as the anode and which as the cathode given different concentrations of Au+.
  • Another suggests using the Nernst equation to analyze the situation, although the original poster seeks a qualitative understanding of electron and ion movement.
  • A participant states that if the electrode potentials are the same, there would be no potential difference, implying no current would flow.
  • One contributor emphasizes the need for a complete circuit and asks for a description of the envisioned setup, noting that thermodynamic tendencies would be similar regardless of the mechanism of transport.
  • A later reply proposes that the solution with the highest concentration of Au3+ would serve as the cathode, as the reduction reaction would occur more rapidly there.

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Participants express differing views on the behavior of the battery, particularly regarding the flow of electrons and the roles of the electrodes. There is no consensus on the outcomes of the proposed setup.

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Participants have not fully defined the complete setup or the specific conditions under which the battery operates, leaving some assumptions and dependencies on definitions unresolved.

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if you make a battery using only au as both cathode and anode and different concentrations(.0001 and 1) of au+, which would be anode and which would be cathode, what would happen? please illustrate. Any help would be highly appreciated

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Try using the Nernst equation
 
I know you can use the Nerst equation, I just want to know what exactly happens with where electrons are going and where ions are going
 
the electrode potentials are the same. there will be no potential difference. i don't think there will be a current flowing.
 
Electrons won't be going anywhere if there is not a complete circuit - I think you need to describe a complete setup you envisage. What chemical substances are going to be present where?

That said, since you ask about qualitatively envisioning it, what happens when you put two solutions of different concentration in contact? Then whether stuff gets transported by diffusing or some of it by another mechanism, the thermodynamic tendencies are the same.
 
royzizzle, which way must electrons flow in order to end up with equal concentrations of au+?
 
i think i misunderstood you question...

i suppose the solution containing the highest concentration of Au3+ will contain the cathode. this is because the reaction of Au3+(aq) + 3e- ----> Au(reduction) will be faster there.
 

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