How Does Elevator Motion Affect Spring Oscillation?

  • Thread starter Thread starter clipperdude21
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Oscillation Spring
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a spring oscillation problem involving a mass suspended from a spring inside a moving elevator. The problem explores how the motion of the elevator affects the spring's behavior, particularly under different acceleration conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations for the spring's stretch under stationary and accelerating conditions, questioning the interpretation of variables related to oscillation, such as amplitude and phase.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations for parts of the problem and expressed confusion regarding the oscillation parameters. There is an ongoing exploration of how to derive the amplitude and phase from the given conditions, with some guidance offered on the relationships between the variables.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of the elevator's motion on the spring's oscillation, with specific attention to the definitions of variables and the assumptions made in their calculations.

clipperdude21
Messages
48
Reaction score
0
[SOLVED] Spring Oscillation Problem!

1. A 2.0 kg mass hangs at rest from a harmonic spring with a spring constant of 500 N/m inside an elevator that is stationary.
a) by how much is the spring stretched
b) suppose that the elevator is rising with a constant upward accel of 1/3 g. By how much is the spring stretched now.
c) The elevator stops at t=0. You observe that the mass starts to oscillate. What are the ampliturde A, frequency f, and the phase phi of the oscillation.




2. F=ma=kx-mg, phi= inverse tan[ wx(o)/v(0)].



3. I think i got a and b but am confused with c.
a) F=kx-mg.
mg=kx = (2)(9,8)= (500)x
x= 0.039 m
b) ma=kx-mg
(2)(9.8/3)=(500x)-2(9,8)
x=0.052 m.
c) w= sqrt(k/M)= 16.58 rad/sec
x(0)=0.052-0.039=0.01306. I think this is x(0) but what is v(o)?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
clipperdude21 said:
3. I think i got a and b but am confused with c.

a)F=kx-mg.
mg=kx = (2)(9,8)= (500)x
x= 0.039 m

OK.

b) ma=kx-mg
(2)(9.8/3)=(500x)-2(9,8)
x=0.052 m.
OK.

c) w= sqrt(k/M)= 16.58 rad/sec
x(0)=0.052-0.039=0.01306. I think this is x(0) but what is v(o)?
A = 0.052-0.039=0.01306. (Edited.)

You can find v0 from x0, m, k etc, or not? Any other idea comes to mind?
 
Last edited:
after thinking about it, i think its easier than i thought. we calculated w. To find the amplitude of the oscillation we take the answer in b and subtract it from a. The phase is then easy to calculate since x(o)=Asin(phi) and if x(o)=amplitude, then sin(phi)=1 and the phase is pi/2
 
I have edited the answer for (c), because I misunderstood the meaning of x(0). The amplitude in (c) is 0.052-0.039=0.01306.

The rest you know.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
2K
Replies
9
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
19
Views
2K