How does error propagate in a complex equation involving averages and variances?

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The discussion revolves around the propagation of error in a complex equation involving averages and variances. The equation in question is f = (X̄ / (100 - ΣȲj)) * K, where X̄ and Ȳ are averages with associated variances S_X² and S_Yj², and K is a constant.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the application of error propagation formulas to the given equation, referencing various equations for error propagation. There is an attempt to identify the contributions of the numerator and denominator to the overall error.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the correct formulation of the error in the denominator, with one participant suggesting a revision to their previous attempt based on feedback. There is ongoing clarification about the treatment of constants and variances in the error propagation context.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the covariance is assumed to be zero, which may influence the error calculations. There is also a mention that K is considered an exact number in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Hello,

I have the following operation that I want to perform:

f=\frac{\bar{X}}{100-\sum \bar{Y}_j}*K
\bar{X} and \bar{Y} are averages with variances S_{X}^2 and S_{Y_j}^2 and K is a constant.

How will the error propagate?

Homework Equations


According to Wikipedia:
(1) f=a\bar{A} \Rightarrow S_f^2=a^2S_f^2 where a is a constant.
(2) f=\bar{A}\bar{B} \Rightarrow S_f^2=S_A^2+S_B^2
(3) f=\frac{\bar{A}}{\bar{B}} \Rightarrow S_f^2=f^2\left(\frac{S_A^2}{A^2}+\frac{S_B^2}{B^2}\right)

The Attempt at a Solution


So then the error of the nominator will be S_{X}^2
Only looking at the denominator i will have: 100-\sum S_{Y_j}^2
Using the third and first equation will then yield:

S_f^2=f^2 \left(\frac{S_{X}^2}{\bar{X}^2} + \frac{100-\sum S_{Y_j}^2}{(100-\sum \bar{Y}_j)^2} \right)K^2

Where K^2 comes from the first equation.

I am a little bit confused though. Is this correct?

Thanks.

Edit: Covariance=0
 
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tjosan said:

Homework Statement


Hello,

I have the following operation that I want to perform:

f=\frac{\bar{X}}{100-\sum \bar{Y}_j}*K
\bar{X} and \bar{Y} are averages with variances S_{X}^2 and S_{Y_j}^2 and K is a constant.

How will the error propagate?

Homework Equations


According to Wikipedia:
(1) f=a\bar{A} \Rightarrow S_f^2=a^2S_f^2 where a is a constant.
(2) f=\bar{A}\bar{B} \Rightarrow S_f^2=S_A^2+S_B^2
(3) f=\frac{\bar{A}}{\bar{B}} \Rightarrow S_f^2=f^2\left(\frac{S_A^2}{A^2}+\frac{S_B^2}{B^2}\right)

The Attempt at a Solution


So then the error of the nominator will be S_{X}^2
Only looking at the denominator i will have: 100-\sum S_{Y_j}^2
Using the third and first equation will then yield:

S_f^2=f^2 \left(\frac{S_{X}^2}{\bar{X}^2} + \frac{100-\sum S_{Y_j}^2}{(100-\sum \bar{Y}_j)^2} \right)K^2

Where K^2 comes from the first equation.

I am a little bit confused though. Is this correct?

Thanks.

Edit: Covariance=0

No, it is not correct: the squared error in ##100 - \sum Y_j## is not ##100 - \sum S_{Y_j}^2##. For one thing, the '100' is a constant that has no error; for another thing, the ##Y_i## squared errors should not be subtracted from anything.
 
Thank you for your answer. Would this be correct?

S_f^2=f^2 \left(\frac{S_{X}^2}{\bar{X}^2} + \frac{\sum S_{Y_j}^2}{(100-\sum \bar{Y}_j)^2} \right)K^2

Thanks.
 
To answer my own question:

S_f^2=\left(\frac{\bar{X}}{100-\sum \bar{Y}_j}\right)^2 \left(\frac{S_{X}^2}{\bar{X}^2} + \frac{\sum S_{Y_j}^2}{(100-\sum \bar{Y}_j)^2} \right)K^2

It should be clarified that K is an exakt number.
 

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