How Does Gauss' Law Apply to Gravitational Fields?

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The discussion revolves around applying Gauss' Law to gravitational fields, specifically in the context of calculating gravitational acceleration at a certain distance from a planet's center. The original poster attempts to derive the gravitational field using the analogy with electric fields and Gauss' Law.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the derivation of gravitational acceleration using Gauss' Law, questioning the assumptions about mass distribution within a sphere. Some participants raise concerns about the calculation of mass at a distance of R/2 and whether the mass should be considered as halved.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and questioning assumptions. There is a mix of attempts to clarify the relationship between volume, mass, and gravitational acceleration, with some participants confirming the correctness of calculations and interpretations.

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Assumptions about uniform density and the implications of negative gravitational acceleration are discussed. The original poster's calculations are scrutinized, and the impact of volume on mass is explored.

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Homework Statement


The gravitational field g due to a point mass M may be obtained by analogy with the electric field by writing an expression for the gravitational force on a test mass, and dividing by the magnitude of the test mass, m. Show that Gauss' law for the gravitational field reads:

[itex]\Phi[/itex] = [itex]\oint g\bullet dA[/itex] = -4*pi*G*M

Use this result to calculate the gravitational acceleration g at a distance of R/2 from the center of a planet of radius R = 8.05 × 10^6 m and M = 8.45 × 10^24 kg.


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above equation


The Attempt at a Solution



i can't get the answer right for this .. here's what i did

[itex]\Phi[/itex] = [itex]\oint g\bullet dA[/itex] = -4*pi*G*M
g[itex]\oint dA[/itex] = -4*pi*GM
g[4*pi*r^2] = -4*pi*GM
g[4*pi*(R/2)^2] = -4*pi*GM
g*pi*R^2 = -4*pi*GM
g = (-4GM)/R^2

and since r=R/2 the mass is halved also. therefore g = (-2*G*M)/R^2

i plugged in the values for G, M, and R .. and got -17.40267737 m/s^2 but its not right
 
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anybody can give any hints of what I am doing wrong?
 
arl146 said:
and since r=R/2 the mass is halved also.
Are you sure about that? :wink:

(What percentage of the sphere's volume--and thus mass, assuming uniform density--is located at r < R/2?)
 
ummm .. is the mass 1/8 of M? since V= (4/3)*pi*r^3
and since R=r/2 ... that makes it V = (4/3)*pi*(R^3/8)
meaning the volume is 1/8 of the total. and since D = M/V ---> M=DV so the mass also is 1/8 of the original?
 
arl146 said:
ummm .. is the mass 1/8 of M? since V= (4/3)*pi*r^3
and since R=r/2 ... that makes it V = (4/3)*pi*(R^3/8)
meaning the volume is 1/8 of the total. and since D = M/V ---> M=DV so the mass also is 1/8 of the original?
Assuming that the density of the planet is uniform, yes, that's correct.
 
is g supposed to be negative? also i got 4.3506693 m/s^2 is that right can someone check for me?
 
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arl146 said:
is g supposed to be negative? also i got 4.3506693 m/s^2 is that right can someone check for me?
That looks good. g is negative just means that the field points toward the center.
 
ok i got it that makes sense. thanks!
 

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