How Does Kicking a Soccer Ball Affect Its Momentum and Force?

  • Thread starter Thread starter songoku
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Ball Momentum
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the momentum and force associated with kicking a soccer ball. The scenario includes a ball with a specified mass being kicked at two different angles and speeds, prompting questions about changes in momentum, force exerted by the player, work done, and power exerted on the ball.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the interpretation of the ball's trajectory and the implications of the angles given in the problem. There is discussion about breaking down the velocity into components and considering the vector nature of momentum and force.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided alternative approaches to the problem and questioned the assumptions regarding the force applied by the player. There is an acknowledgment of the need to consider the change in momentum rather than just the outgoing momentum, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the interpretation of the problem statement, particularly regarding the trajectory of the ball and the forces involved during the kick. There is a focus on ensuring that the calculations account for the vector nature of the quantities involved.

songoku
Messages
2,514
Reaction score
395

Homework Statement


A ball with mass 100 gr is kicked with angle -30o to the ground and has speed 20 ms-1. Then, the ball is kicked and reversed with angle 30o and speed 25 ms-1. The player touches the ball for 0.1 s. Find:
(i) Change in momentum
(ii) Force by the player
(iii) Work by the player
(iv) Power exerted on the ball


Homework Equations


p = momentum = mv = F.t
P = power = W/t
Work = change in kinetic energy

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not very sure about the question at part "the ball is kicked and reversed with angle 30o". I tried to solve this problem with assumption that the ball is kicked back in a straight line.

(i) change in momentum = mv-mu = 0.1 (25 - (-20) ) = 4.5 Ns

(ii) [tex]F=\frac{p}{t}=\frac{4.5}{0.1}=45N[/tex]

(iii) W = 1/2 mv2 - 1/2 mu2 = 11.25 J

(iv) P = W/t = 11.25 / 0.1 = 112.5 Watt

Do I get it right ?

Thanks
 
Physics news on Phys.org


songoku said:
I'm not very sure about the question at part "the ball is kicked and reversed with angle 30o".
I would read this statement as "the ball is initially traveling with speed 20m/s at an angle of -30 degrees. The ball is then kicked and travels at an angle of 30 degrees and speed 25m/s".

In this case, the motion is not rectilinear.
 


Hi Hootenanny

So you mean that the motion of the ball is like "V" letter?

Thanks
 


songoku said:
Hi Hootenanny

So you mean that the motion of the ball is like "V" letter?

Thanks
Technically, a sidewards "V" since the angles are given with respect to the ground, but yes I would say that the trajectory of the ball is V-shaped.
 


Hi Hootenanny

Ok so I've tried new solution.

(i) Because the trajectory of the ball is V-shaped, I broke the velocity onto two components.

a. When the ball comes:
*Vx = 20 cos 30o to the right
*Vy = 20 sin 30o downward

b. When the ball kicked:
*Vx = 25 cos 30o to the right
*Vy = 25 sin 30o upward

Px = 25 cos 30o-20 cos 30o=5 cos 30o
Py = 25 sin 30o - (-20 sin 30o) = 45 sin 30o

Change in momentum = [tex]\sqrt{(P_x)^2+(P_y)^2} = 5\sqrt{21}\;Ns[/tex](ii) [tex]F=\frac{p}{t}=\frac{5\sqrt{21}}{0.1}=50\sqrt{21} \;N[/tex]

(iii) W = 1/2 mv2 - 1/2 mu2 = 11.25 J

(iv) P = W/t = 11.25 / 0.1 = 112.5 Watt

Do I get it right?

Thanks
 
Last edited:


I haven't checked your arithmetic, but your method looks fine two.

One, somewhat minor point: since we are dealing with planar motion, both the change in momentum and the force should be vector quantities.
 


Hi Hootenanny

I've re-checked my answer and I have doubt at (ii). The question is asking about the force by the player, so should we only consider the momentum when the ball kicked with speed 25 ms-1 because the player doesn't give any forces when the ball comes?

Thanks
 


songoku said:
Hi Hootenanny

I've re-checked my answer and I have doubt at (ii). The question is asking about the force by the player, so should we only consider the momentum when the ball kicked with speed 25 ms-1 because the player doesn't give any forces when the ball comes?

Thanks
Newton's second law states that the net external force acting on a body is equal to the rate of change of the momentum. Therefore, you need to consider the change in momentum, not just the out-going momentum.
 


Hi Hootenanny

Ok now I get it.

Thanks a lot for your help :)
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
7K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 24 ·
Replies
24
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
10
Views
12K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
4K