How does light have energy to follow infinite paths?

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of light taking multiple paths from a source to a destination, as illustrated by a Veritasium video and related to Richard Feynman's principles. Participants explore the implications of this idea on the energy of light emitted from a laser pointer, questioning how it can generate photons that follow an infinite number of paths.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference a Veritasium video that suggests light takes every possible path from source to destination, including non-linear paths through spacetime.
  • One participant offers an analogy comparing light to waves in a swimming pool, suggesting that a small action can propagate effects widely without losing energy over long distances.
  • Another participant challenges the idea that light takes infinite paths, asserting that there is a finite region of spacetime in which paths are confined during experiments.
  • It is proposed that the concept of constructive and destructive interference is crucial to understanding how light can take multiple paths without necessarily increasing energy, as interference can result in paths carrying less energy collectively.
  • A participant suggests that a video titled "How big is a photon" might provide additional insights relevant to the discussion.
  • Questions are raised about the effects of introducing a grating foil on the intensity of the original laser reflection and whether it would diminish due to interference effects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of light paths and their implications for energy. There is no consensus on whether light can truly take infinite paths or how this relates to energy generation.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of light paths and energy transfer remain unresolved, particularly regarding the implications of interference and the finite regions of spacetime involved in experiments.

oknow
Messages
19
Reaction score
2
A recent Veritasium video demonstrates via experiment that light from a laser pointer takes every possible.path from source to destination, as promulgated by Richard Feynman. These paths need not be straight lines and thus can wander all of spacetime. That implies light is taking an infinite, or near-infinite, number of paths. How does my little laser pointer have enough energy to generate photons/waves that follow infinite paths?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
It's very bad analogy, but it might provide a start for thought:

Dip your finger in a swimming pool. That tiny movement is enough to propagate waves to every part of the pool. And ight doesn't lose energy like water waves do (at least not over galactic distances).
 
oknow said:
A recent Veritasium video
Please give a link.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: bhobba
oknow said:
These paths need not be straight lines
This is true.

oknow said:
and thus can wander all of spacetime.
This is false. There is always some finite (and usually quite small) region of spacetime in which all of the paths in a particular experiment are confined.

oknow said:
How does my little laser pointer have enough energy to generate photons/waves that follow infinite paths?
Your laser pointer doesn't do that. The paths are not paths of real photons or waves or light rays or anything else.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: bhobba
When thinking about these wandering paths and energy you have to realize the constructive and destructive interference involved. Light can take two paths which together carry less energy than either one alone due to interference. Just having more paths in no way implies any extra energy.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: bhobba
PeterDonis said:
Please give a link.
The key part is linked below. The obvious question relevant to the OPs energy concerns is:

When the grating foil is introduced to create the additional laser reflection by preventing the usual almost complete destructive interference there, does the original laser reflection lose intensity, due to more destructive interference at its location?

Or:

If mirror and foil with the right grating was placed all over the table, would the original distinct reflection disappear, as the laser energy gets more or less evenly reflected all over the mirror?

 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 33 ·
2
Replies
33
Views
6K
  • · Replies 33 ·
2
Replies
33
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 24 ·
Replies
24
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K