How Does Rydberg Energy Apply to Exciton Binding Calculations?

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The discussion revolves around the application of Rydberg energy in calculating the binding energy of excitons, particularly in the context of semiconductor physics. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings, potential limitations, and specific conditions under which the Rydberg approximation may be applicable.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of using Rydberg energy for exciton binding calculations, noting that Rydberg energy is derived from the kinetic energy of a hydrogen atom in circular orbit, which does not apply to excitons.
  • Another participant argues that the potential form is similar, as both systems involve a Coulombic central potential without screening, suggesting that excitons can be treated like hydrogenic atoms.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that the binding energy of an exciton is influenced by the reduced mass of the electron-hole pair, drawing a parallel to the hydrogen atom's energy levels.
  • It is noted that the Rydberg approximation is valid only if the screening is sufficient, allowing the Bohr radius of the exciton to be large compared to lattice spacing, which affects the permittivity of the medium.
  • One participant raises concerns about the effective mass concept, suggesting it may be more relevant for localized electrons and questioning the need for many k points in constructing the wave function.
  • References to literature are provided to support claims regarding the effective mass and localization, indicating that these concepts are discussed in specific texts.
  • A participant highlights that binding energies can vary significantly in different dimensional systems, such as carbon nanotubes, compared to bulk semiconductors.

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Participants express differing views on the applicability of the Rydberg approximation and the factors influencing exciton binding energy, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without clear consensus.

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Limitations include the dependence on the effective dielectric constant, the validity of the effective mass concept for localized electrons, and the influence of dimensionality on binding energy calculations.

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Hey!

Can someone help me calculate the binding energy of an exciton? I have been told to use the Rydberg energy but isn't the Rydberg energy derived using the kinetic energy of an atom in a circular orbit about a positve core (hydrogen atom), and the coulomb potential between the two? In an exciton there is no circular orbit, so how can the Rydberg energy be valid in this case??


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Because it has the SAME form of potential, i.e. a coulombic central potential with no screening term (at least in the less complex model). Thus, you have an equivalent of a hydrogenic atom.

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Think about the solution of the hydrogen atom, an electron and a proton. An exciton is an electron-hole pair, bound by the very same potentials as a hydrogen atom. The difference between the two systems energies is in the reduced mass.
 
One more thing to keep in mind here. You can use the Rydberg approximation to calculate the exciton binding energies only if the screening (and hence, the effective dielectric constant) is large enough that the "Bohr radius" of the exciton is large compared to a lattice spacing. This allows you to approximate the permittivity of the medium at the position of the exciton with the macroscopic dielectric constant.
 
Gokul43201 said:
One more thing to keep in mind here. You can use the Rydberg approximation to calculate the exciton binding energies only if the screening (and hence, the effective dielectric constant) is large enough that the "Bohr radius" of the exciton is large compared to a lattice spacing. This allows you to approximate the permittivity of the medium at the position of the exciton with the macroscopic dielectric constant.

Excellent point and one that gets overlooked many times.
 
Hi guys!

is there anybody know, what is the suitable meaning for "exciton binding energy"?

thank you...
 
In a semiconductor at least it's the binding energy between a hole-electron pair within the solid. (As long as the lattice spacing is << the "Bohr radius" as Gokul says.)

It's typically tiny, ~meV, with the absorption spectrum for excitons sitting just below the bandgap in a semiconductor.
 
Hi!

Gokul43201 said:
One more thing to keep in mind here. You can use the Rydberg approximation to calculate the exciton binding energies only if the screening (and hence, the effective dielectric constant) is large enough that the "Bohr radius" of the exciton is large compared to a lattice spacing. This allows you to approximate the permittivity of the medium at the position of the exciton with the macroscopic dielectric constant.

I thought the limitation of the model was more with the effective mass, which is a valid concept only for relatively delocalized electron. When the electron is localized, we need a lot of k points to construct the wave function and we must use the k points far from k = 0, where the band is no more parabolic (and hence the effective mass concept loose it validity).

But you make a good point. Thanks for pointing that. Have you a reference where it is clearly written?

Thanks in advance,

TP
 
Tipi said:
Thanks for pointing that. Have you a reference where it is clearly written?

Ok. There is a word on that (localization vs macroscopic dielectric constant usage) in Ashcroft/Mermin, p. 579.

In Marder, p. 593, one first demand spatial extend for a valid utilization of the effective mass concept. Then one use Bohr model to predict radius, and from its large value, conclude that it is consistent with the picture of an electron and a hole sitting in a classical background dielectric.

TP
 
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How many dimensions are you working in? The binding energy in lower dimensional systems can be huge, eg in a carbon nanotube you can have a binding energy on the order of half an eV, compared to the band gap in many of about an eV, while in bulk semi-conductors it is often quite small. Also, what densities are you looking at are you worried about band gap renormalization?
 

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