How Does Skidding Affect Angular Acceleration on a Rotating Turntable?

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The problem involves a turntable rotating at a constant angular speed, with a record being dropped onto it from rest. The record initially skids on the turntable before eventually rotating together with it. The task is to find the average angular acceleration of the record during the skidding phase, given the angular displacement of the turntable.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the time taken for the turntable to travel a specific angular displacement and the angular acceleration of the record. There is an exploration of the effects of friction and the transition from skidding to synchronized rotation.

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Some participants have provided guidance on finding the time during which the record skids and how to relate that to angular acceleration. There is ongoing clarification regarding the initial conditions of the record and its motion during skidding.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses confusion about the relationship between the skidding of the record and its angular acceleration, indicating a need for further exploration of the underlying physics concepts.

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Homework Statement



A turntable rotates at a uniform angular speed of 3.0 rads^-1. A record is dropped from rest onto the turntable. Initially the record skids on the turntable but eventually rotates together withe the turntable.

(a) While the record is skidding on the turntable, the angular displacement of the turntable is 0.20rad. Find the average angular acceleration of the record before it achieves the constant speed of the turntable.

Homework Equations



I'm writing this with reference to linear motion since the symbols used in rotational are a bit tedious to write, but I'm confident you will understand.

s = ut + [(1/2)at^2)
ωf=ωi+αt

The Attempt at a Solution



Actually I had some guidance, first that is to find the time of the turntable when it moved 0.2rad while the record was skidding.

Then time is substituted into the second equation I've given above to find the angular acceleration.

The problem is I don't understand what is the relation between the time taken for the turntable to travel 0.2rad and the angular acceleration of the record.
 
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\omega_f=\omega_i+\alpha t
 
\omega_f=\omega_i+\alpha t
 
The problem is I don't understand what is the relation between the time taken for the turntable to travel 0.2rad and the angular acceleration of the record.
During this time (or equivalently, during this angular displacement) the record is sliding--a frictional force is being applied to the record, resulting in its acceleration. When the speed of the record increases to that of the turntable, it no longer slides (no longer is a frictional force causing acceleration) and so it maintains the same speed as the turntable. Hope this helps.
 
lewando said:
During this time (or equivalently, during this angular displacement) the record is sliding--a frictional force is being applied to the record, resulting in its acceleration. When the speed of the record increases to that of the turntable, it no longer slides (no longer is a frictional force causing acceleration) and so it maintains the same speed as the turntable. Hope this helps.

So when the question says skidding, actually is the record moving?

@IssacNewton thnks! I'm not too familiar with all the scripting, you're a fantastic help! =)
 
Kurokari said:
So when the question says skidding, actually is the record moving?
Initially, it is not moving--"dropped from rest", yet upon contact with the turntable it begins to move (rotate). It starts at 0 rads/sec and increases until it acheives 3 rads/sec.
 

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