How Does Substitution Affect Double Integration and Differentiation?

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The discussion revolves around the application of substitution in the context of double integration and differentiation, specifically involving nested integrals and the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants examine the correctness of a method involving differentiation of nested integrals and substitution. There is a focus on the transformation of variables, particularly using \( m = \sin x \) and its implications on the differentiation process.

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Several participants express agreement with the method presented, while also seeking clarification on the steps involved. The discussion appears to be productive, with participants engaging in verifying the mathematical reasoning and notation used.

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There is mention of relevant equations, specifically the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, and a note on the proper formatting of LaTeX in the context of the discussion.

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Homework Statement
\frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}\int_{0}^{x}(\int_{1}^{sint}\sqrt{1+u^{4}}du)dt
Relevant Equations
FTC1
\frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}\int_{0}^{x}(\int_{1}^{sint}\sqrt{1+u^{4}}du)dt=\frac{d}{dx}\int_{0}^{sinx}(\sqrt{1+u^{4}})du
then we let m=sinx,so x=arcsinx,then we get \frac{d}{dx}\int_{0}^{sinx}(\sqrt{1+u^{4}})du=\frac{dm}{dx}\frac{d}{dm}\int_{0}^{m}(\sqrt{1+u^{4}})du=\sqrt{1+m^{4}}\frac{dm}{dx},then we get the answer easily
Is this method correct?
 
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I observe your math as below
***********
\frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}\int_{0}^{x}(\int_{1}^{sint}\sqrt{1+u^{4}}du)dt=\frac{d}{dx}\int_{0}^{sinx}(\sqrt{1+u^{4}})du
then we let m=sinx,so x=arcsinx,then we get
\frac{d}{dx}\int_{0}^{sinx}(\sqrt{1+u^{4}})du=\frac{dm}{dx}\frac{d}{dm}\int_{0}^{m}(\sqrt{1+u^{4}})du=\sqrt{1+m^{4}}\frac{dm}{dx}
,then we get the answer easily
Is this method correct?
************
Is that what you mean ? It seems OK.
 
anuttarasammyak said:
I observe your math as below
***********
\frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}\int_{0}^{x}(\int_{1}^{sint}\sqrt{1+u^{4}}du)dt=\frac{d}{dx}\int_{0}^{sinx}(\sqrt{1+u^{4}})du
then we let m=sinx,so x=arcsinx,then we get
\frac{d}{dx}\int_{0}^{sinx}(\sqrt{1+u^{4}})du=\frac{dm}{dx}\frac{d}{dm}\int_{0}^{m}(\sqrt{1+u^{4}})du=\sqrt{1+m^{4}}\frac{dm}{dx}
,then we get the answer easily
Is this method correct?
************
Is that what you mean ? It seems OK.
Yes.Thank you
 
What you posted:
KungPeng Zhou said:
Homework Statement: \frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}\int_{0}^{x}(\int_{1}^{sint}\sqrt{1+u^{4}}du)dt
Relevant Equations: FTC1

\frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}\int_{0}^{x}(\int_{1}^{sint}\sqrt{1+u^{4}}du)dt=\frac{d}{dx}\int_{0}^{sinx}(\sqrt{1+u^{4}})du
then we let m=sinx,so x=arcsinx,then we get \frac{d}{dx}\int_{0}^{sinx}(\sqrt{1+u^{4}})du=\frac{dm}{dx}\frac{d}{dm}\int_{0}^{m}(\sqrt{1+u^{4}})du=\sqrt{1+m^{4}}\frac{dm}{dx},then we get the answer easily
Is this method correct?
Same but using LaTeX:
Homework Statement: ##\frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}\int_{0}^{x}(\int_{1}^{\sin t}\sqrt{1+u^{4}}du)dt##
Relevant Equations: FTC1

##\frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}\int_{0}^{x}(\int_{1}^{\sin t}\sqrt{1+u^{4}}du)dt=\frac{d}{dx}\int_{0}^{\sin x}(\sqrt{1+u^{4}})du##
then we let ##m=\sin x##,so ##x=arcsin x##,then we get ##\frac{d}{dx}\int_{0}^{\sin x}(\sqrt{1+u^{4}})du=\frac{dm}{dx}\frac{d}{dm}\int_{0}^{m}
(\sqrt{1+u^{4}})du=\sqrt{1+m^{4}}\frac{dm}{dx}##,then we get the answer easily
Is this method correct?

Your LaTeX is pretty good, but you need to surround each equation with a pair of # characters (inline LaTeX) or a pair of $ characters (standalone LaTeX).
 

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