How Does the Boeing 787's Wing Shape Enhance Flight Dynamics?

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The discussion centers around the wing shape of the Boeing 787 and its impact on flight dynamics, including aspects of aerodynamics, efficiency, and potential future designs. Participants explore both the technical features of the wing and speculative ideas about future aircraft designs.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the wing shape of the Boeing 787 is truly new, suggesting it is an evolution of existing designs with improvements in curvature and structure.
  • Others assert that the wing design contributes to quieter operation and improved fuel efficiency.
  • One participant proposes that the wing tips may represent a compromise between reducing wing tip vortex shedding and enhancing lift.
  • A suggestion is made regarding the potential for bendable aerodynamic surfaces similar to those used in Formula 1, which could adapt the wing shape for different flight conditions to optimize lift during take-off and landing versus cruising.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the novelty of the wing shape and its aerodynamic benefits, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the wing's performance and design features depend on specific assumptions about aerodynamics and structural engineering, which are not fully explored in the discussion.

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There is a photo of a boeing 787 at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_787

Is this a new wing shape? It looks very curved both in the plane of the wing
and for a dihedral.
 
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Yeah - it makes it quieter and more fuel efficient.

(Saw this on Nat. Geo. the other day - the future may be a complete flying wing with no windows!)
 
verdigris said:
Is this a new wing shape? It looks very curved both in the plane of the wing and for a dihedral.

Not really, it's stil plain old swept/extended inboard chord, with local evolutionary improvements. It seems curved in flight due to higher elastic deformation -- probably to save on wing structure mass (or not?)

J77 said:
[...] the future may be a complete flying wing with no windows!

Ah, the joys of mass-transport. Reminds me of pig transport by truck.

My dream machine falls more in line with Erich Sommer's comment on Ar234, "Inside the cockpit, and you felt like being in a glass tunnel". Guess this one's less likely then the boomerang stuff above.

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Chusslove Illich (Часлав Илић)
 
Are the tips of the wings of the boeing 787 a compromise between reducing wing tip vortex shedding and getting a bit more lift?
 
In Formula 1, they have been using bendable aerodynamic surfaces to limit downforce at high speed. Could they do the same thing with the 787 wing, a shape for high lift at low speeds to aid take-off and landing and when it bends the shape changes to provide less lift at cruising speed?
 

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