How does the education system in the UK work?

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The discussion revolves around the education system in the UK, addressing various stages including primary, secondary, and further education. Participants inquire about the structure, curriculum choices, and the implications of early specialization in education.

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  • Some participants note that primary education in the UK is standardized but varies across regions like England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.
  • It is mentioned that secondary education allows for more subject choices, particularly at Key Stage 4, while core subjects remain compulsory.
  • Further education options include GCE A-levels, BTECs, and the International Baccalaureate, with some students focusing on vocational training for specific careers.
  • There is a distinction made that 'honours degrees' apply only to bachelor's degrees, and the requirements for transitioning from a bachelor's to a master's degree can vary significantly between universities.
  • Concerns are raised about the appropriateness of allowing children as young as 11 to choose their type of secondary school, with some arguing that it is too early for such decisions.
  • Participants discuss the complexity of the UK education system, noting the existence of various school types and examination boards, which contribute to a lack of uniformity.
  • Questions are posed regarding how giftedness is assessed in children and whether it is appropriate to categorize them at such a young age.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of early educational choices and the complexity of the UK education system. There is no consensus on whether the current system is effective or beneficial for children.

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Participants highlight that the educational system is complicated and less uniform than in many other countries, with various types of schools and curricula that can differ significantly.

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What is A level and GCSE in UK? Is this high school ?
They call college same as university?
 
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user079622 said:
What is A level and GCSE in UK? I

If you type that into Google, verbatim, here is what pops out. Verbatim.

GCSEs, or General Certificate of Secondary Education, are typically taken by students aged 14-16, while A-levels, or Advanced Level qualifications, are taken by students aged 16-18.

What didn't you understand?
 
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The UK system is quite complicated; and not everyone follows exactly the same path. There is also much more choice in terms of what you study even at an early age compared to most other countries.

That said, GCSEs can be thought of as the final part of the obligatory part of the education system. The GCSE exam results are e.g. what you would use when you apply to the next stage of your education. However, not everyone studies the same GCSE subjects (most students will do something like 5-6 subjects with English and math being mandatory, but some do more)
A-levels is a bit like high-school and the "usual" path if you want to attend university is to do A-levels. However, not everyone does so, and there are various other schemes.
The word "college" is used for several different things in the UK. It can be part of a university ( E.g. Oxford is divided into many different colleges), but there are also e.g. sixth form colleges where you can do A-levels. You would also attend a college if you want to do a BTEC instead of A levels. It is essentially just a place which offer higher education.

Again, it is a really messy and complicated system
 
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f95toli said:
The UK system is quite complicated; and not everyone follows exactly the same path. There is also much more choice in terms of what you study even at an early age compared to most other countries.

That said, GCSEs can be thought of as the final part of the obligatory part of the education system. The GCSE exam results are e.g. what you would use when you apply to the next stage of your education. However, not everyone studies the same GCSE subjects (most students will do something like 5-6 subjects with English and math being mandatory, but some do more)
A-levels is a bit like high-school and the "usual" path if you want to attend university is to do A-levels. However, not everyone does so, and there are various other schemes.
The word "college" is used for several different things in the UK. It can be part of a university ( E.g. Oxford is divided into many different colleges), but there are also e.g. sixth form colleges where you can do A-levels. You would also attend a college if you want to do a BTEC instead of A levels. It is essentially just a place which offer higher education.

Again, it is a really messy and complicated system
GCSE is mandatory for all, A level is not?
 
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gwnorth said:
Yes, but you have to be in school until you're 18 so if you don't do A levels you're still required to do further education or training.

https://www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school
Only with A level you can go to university?
 
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user079622 said:
Only with A level you can go to university?
AFAIK for entrance to UK universities, it’s mainly A-levels but could can also be:
BTECs
Scottish Highers and Advanced Highers
Welsh Baccalaureate
International Baccalaureate
T-levels (only introduced in the last few years)

Different entry requirements apply to overseas students typically based on performance in their own country’s examination system.

There may be additional entrance tests for some courses and universities (e.g. medicine, Oxford, Cambridge).`

No doubt there are exceptons but I’d guess that covers well-over 90% of entrants.
 
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user079622 said:
Only with A level you can go to university?

That is different for international students. You need to check the requirements for each country at the particular university.

An interesting university is the University of Buckingham:
https://www.buckingham.ac.uk/

Have a look at the entrance requirements for your country. UK three-year degrees are the equivalent of US 4 year degrees (strangely, Australian 3-year degrees are not). They do a UK 3-year degree in two years. So, you can do a US 4 year degree in two years. The entrance requirements are also interesting for US students. One year of college studies is one of the possible admission requirements. Using Dual Credit is now common in many US High Schools, or if you homeschool, you can often meet that by year 11, leaving just two years to get your degree (dual credit subjects are one semester but count as a year HS credit).

People here would likely be interested in computing or medicine.

Thanks
Bill
 
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