How Does the Rolle Theorem Apply to Continuous and Differentiable Functions?

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The discussion revolves around the application of Rolle's Theorem to continuous and differentiable functions. Participants explore the conditions under which the theorem holds and seek examples that satisfy or violate these conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants attempt to provide examples of functions that meet certain criteria of continuity and differentiability as outlined by Rolle's Theorem. Questions arise regarding the implications of discontinuity and differentiability, particularly in relation to the endpoints of intervals.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing examples and questioning the validity of their approaches. Some have provided examples, while others express uncertainty about finding a function that is discontinuous on a closed interval but differentiable on the corresponding open interval.

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There is a focus on the definitions of closed and open intervals, and how these relate to the conditions of Rolle's Theorem. Participants note the constraints of the problem, particularly regarding the nature of differentiability and continuity at the endpoints of the interval.

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Homework Statement




the rolle theorem said :
suppose
(i) F(X) is continuous on colse interval (a,b)

(ii) F(X) is differentiable on open interval ( a,b)

(iii) F(a)=F(b)

then there is c on (a,b) such that F`(c)=0


the question is give an example :

1- satisfied (i) (ii) and not satisfy (i) and explain why c is not on the interval (a,b)?

2-satisfied (i) (iii) and not satisfy (ii) and explain why c is not on the interval (a,b)?

3-satisfied (ii) (iii) and not satisfy (i) and explain why c is not on the interval (a,b)?


I got answers each 1 and 2 but on 3 how can I got it
because if the function discontinous then so it is non diffrentiable on (a,b).
 
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haya said:

Homework Statement




the rolle theorem said :
suppose
(i) F(X) is continuous on colse interval (a,b)
That's not a closed interval. You mean [a, b].

(ii) F(X) is differentiable on open interval ( a,b)

(iii) F(a)=F(b)

then there is c on (a,b) such that F`(c)=0


the question is give an example :

1- satisfied (i) (ii) and not satisfy (i) and explain why c is not on the interval (a,b)?

2-satisfied (i) (iii) and not satisfy (ii) and explain why c is not on the interval (a,b)?

3-satisfied (ii) (iii) and not satisfy (i) and explain why c is not on the interval (a,b)?


I got answers each 1 and 2 but on 3 how can I got it
because if the function discontinous then so it is non diffrentiable on (a,b).
But, as I pointed out above that is NOT a closed interval. Can you think of a function that is differentiable on (a, b) but NOT continuous on [a, b]? Of course, that depends precisely upon the difference between (a, b) and [a, b].
 
yes I mean closed interval [a,b]


for example F(x)= 1/x on [0,2]

F(x) is discontinuos at x=0

F(x) is differentiable on (0,2)


and thank you so much
 
haya said:
for example F(x)= 1/x on [0,2]
This example does not satisfy (iii) since [itex]?=F(0)\neq F(2)=1/2[/itex]
 
Try F(x)= 1/x on (0, 2], F(0)= 1/2.
 
yes it is satisfyed the theorem
 
I still thinking about this question


but we know if the function is not continuous then it is not diffrentiable


so the answer of question (3) is will be no example because he want the function be discontinuous on interval [a,b] and diffrentiable on (a,b) that's never ever will happen in mathematics
 
The function in our example is continuous everywhere except at zero. At zero however, it is not required to be differentiable, so no problem.
 
could you give other example :

the example will be in discontinuoty on [a,b]
but differentiable on (a,b)

ok

I will be greatfull for you if give me the example
because this qeustion from the homework and tomorrow is the due day
 
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You're correct, to the point where if the function is differentiable on (a,b) it's continuous on (a,b). Hence the only discontinuities can be at the endpoint. Examples are usually just continuous functions on (a,b) with the endpoints f(a) and f(b) redefined. Such as (a=0,b=1)

f(x)=x on (0,1) f(0)=f(1)=1
f(x)=sin(x) on (0,1) f(0)=2 f(1)=-3
f(x)=ex on (0,1) f(0)=1 f(1)=0
 

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