How Does the Work-Energy Theorem Apply to Calculating Force on a Sled?

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The problem involves a sled with a mass of 8.00 kg moving on a frictionless surface, where its speed changes from 4.00 m/s to 6.00 m/s over a distance of 2.5 m. Participants are tasked with applying the work-energy theorem to determine the force acting on the sled, assuming a constant force in the direction of motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of work using the kinetic energy formula and question the application of the work-energy theorem. There is a focus on the interpretation of the angle θ in the work formula and its relevance to the sled's motion.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations for the work done and have expressed uncertainty about the application of the work-energy theorem. There is ongoing clarification about the angle θ and its implications for the direction of the force relative to the sled's motion.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating assumptions about the direction of force and the nature of the work-energy theorem, with some confusion regarding the angle used in calculations. There is a lack of consensus on the interpretation of these concepts.

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I don't really have any clue on this problem...

Homework Statement


A sled with mass 8.00 kg moves in a straight line on a frictionless horizontal surface. At one point in its path, its speed is 4.00 m/s. after it has traveled 2.5m beyond this point its speed is 6.00 m/s. Use the work energy relation to find the force acting on the sled, assuming that this force is constant and that it acts in the direction of the sleds motion.


Homework Equations


W = ∆K


The Attempt at a Solution



The only thing i can think of (which isn't the work energy theorem) is Work = 1/2 MVf2-1/2MVi2

W= 1/2*(8kg)*(6m/s)2-1/2(8kg)*(4m/s)^2
W = 80 J

then use Work = FS Cos(Θ)

80J = F*(2.5m)*Cos(180)
-32N = F
 
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Jim4592 said:
The only thing i can think of (which isn't the work energy theorem) is Work = 1/2 MVf2-1/2MVi2
Why do you think this isn't the work energy theorem? What do you think is the work energy theorem?



Jim4592 said:
Work = 1/2 MVf2-1/2MVi2
W = 80 J
Redo your calculation here.



Jim4592 said:
8.00 kg
moves in a straight line on a ... horizontal surface
At one point ... its speed is 4.00 m/s
2.5m beyond this point its speed is 6.00 m/s
find the force acting on the sled
assuming ... this force is constant and that it acts in the direction of the sleds motion

Work = FS Cos(Θ)

80J = F*(2.5m)*Cos(180)
-32N = F
Why is Θ=180?
 
i'm still getting 80 J for that one calculation, i called theta 180 because it was moving in a straight line.
 
Jim4592 said:
i'm still getting 80 J for that one calculation,
Oh yeah, that's right. It never hurts to redo a simple calc, though, right? Sorry.



Jim4592 said:
i called theta 180 because it was moving in a straight line.
The value of theta has nothing to do with a straight line, it has to do with the angle between the directions of the force and direction traveled. theta is not 180. If theta were 180, then the force would be in the opposite direction from the motion, and so the object would slow down.
 

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