How Does Time Affect the Velocity of a Kicked Soccer Ball?

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The discussion revolves around the motion of a kicked soccer ball, specifically analyzing its velocity at different time intervals after being kicked. The problem involves kinematics, focusing on the effects of time on velocity components in both horizontal and vertical directions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to decompose the initial velocity into horizontal and vertical components and apply kinematic equations to find the ball's velocity at specific times. Some participants question the validity of the assumptions regarding vertical velocity and its relationship to time, while others suggest using specific equations to calculate the components of velocity.

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Participants are exploring different methods to calculate the velocity of the soccer ball at given times. There is a mix of understanding regarding the application of kinematic equations, with some expressing confusion about the unknowns involved and the role of gravity. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of time in calculations and the nature of horizontal versus vertical motion.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions made regarding the vertical velocity and the effects of gravity on the ball's motion. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations and the implications of their results.

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Homework Statement



A soccer ball is kicked with an inital speed of 12.0 m/s in a direction of 25.0 degrees above the horizontal. Find the magnitude and direction of its velocity A) 0.250 s and b) 0.500 s after being kicked. C) Is the ball at its greatest height before or after 0.500 s?

Homework Equations



a = (Vf - Vi)/t

d = ((Vi + Vff / 2)t

d = Vit + 0.5at[super]2[/super]

Vf = 2ad + Vi[super]2[/super]

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm really stuck on this.

I've gone with:

Vh = cos(25)12.0m/s
Vh = 10.88 m/s

Vi = sin(25)12.0m/s
Vi = 5.07 m/s

Now I've heard that in class if your initial vertical velocity in these types of problems has to be equal to the final or finishing vertical velocity...

So since I have Vi = 5.07 m/s ; I set Vf = -5.07 m/s

...and worked from there, but I am not sure at all if this was correct.

From there I tried to work out the displacement ...

Vf = 2ad + Vi[super]2[/super]

-5.07m/s = 2(-9.8m/s2)(d) + 5.07[super]2[/super]

d = 1.57 m

... and this is where I KNEW (at least I think I know...) that I'm horribly wrong. A kick with an initial vertical velocity of 5.07 m/s and overall 12.0 m/s ... and my displacement is 1.57 m total...

If anybody can help get me pointed in the right direction on this ... I would GREATLY appreciate it.
 
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v_x = v_0_x +a_x \cdot t = v_0_x =12 \cos(25^{o})

v_y= v_0_y + a_y \cdot t =12sin(25^{o})-9.81 \cdot t

v=\sqrt{v_x^2+v_y^2}
 
dirk_mec1 said:
v_x = v_0_x +a_x \cdot t = v_0_x =12 \cos(25^{o})

v_y= v_0_y + a_y \cdot t =12sin(25^{o})-9.81 \cdot t

v=\sqrt{v_x^2+v_y^2}

I don't understand how these help me... isn't there still 2 unknowns with a and t ? I'm so confused.
 
zileas said:
I don't understand how these help me... isn't there still 2 unknowns with a and t ? I'm so confused.


those equations tell you the final answer... that equation for the v he gave you was the final magnitude of the velocity. The a is not unknown because it is 9.8m/s^2 (acceleration of gravity in Y direction) the T is unknown because you have to plug in the values of t you want to solve for...

Vx= Vox*cos(25)
Vy= Voy*sin(25)-(9.8m/s^2)(t)

time doesn't have to be factored into the Vx because that speed is at a constant speed in the x direction until it hits the ground because there are no forces acting on it (assuming no air friction).

For Vy does need time factored into it because gravity is acting on it.

So plug in the time values for t that you need answers for and use the equation given by dirk to find the magnitude of the velocity... V= sqrt(Vx^2+Vy^2)
 

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