How Does Time Periodicity Affect Wavepacket Position in Quantum Mechanics?

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The discussion centers around the behavior of wavepackets in quantum mechanics, specifically how time periodicity affects their position when constructed from harmonic oscillator states. The original poster is tasked with demonstrating that a wavepacket remains at the same position at specific time intervals defined by T = 2π/ω.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the position operator and the time-evolution operator in relation to the wavefunction's time dependence. There are inquiries about how to express the time dependence of the wavefunction and the implications of shifting time by 2π/ω.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on considering the time dependence of the wavefunction and the effects of applying the time-evolution operator. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to approach the problem, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants note the lack of additional information provided in the problem statement, which may impact the clarity of the discussion. There are references to class materials and textbooks that may contain relevant details about harmonic oscillator wavefunctions.

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Homework Statement



I'm supposed to show that whatever superposition of harmonic oscillator states is used to construct wavepacket of the form [tex]\sum[/tex] cv[tex]\Psi[/tex] (x,t) (cv are arbitary complex coefficients), it is at the same place at the times 0, T, 2T,.. where T = 2 [tex]\pi[/tex]/[tex]\omega[/tex]


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The Attempt at a Solution



I was thinking of using the position operator on the function and subbing t = 2n [tex]\pi[/tex]/[tex]\omega[/tex] as the time but i don't really know where to start
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Shomy said:

Homework Statement



I'm supposed to show that whatever superposition of harmonic oscillator states is used to construct wavepacket of the form [tex]\sum[/tex] cv[tex]\Psi[/tex] (x,t) (cv are arbitary complex coefficients), it is at the same place at the times 0, T, 2T,.. where T = 2 [tex]\pi[/tex]/[tex]\omega[/tex]


Homework Equations




The Attempt at a Solution



I was thinking of using the position operator on the function and subbing t = 2n [tex]\pi[/tex]/[tex]\omega[/tex] as the time but i don't really know where to start

WHat is the time dependence of each term in your sum? Consider shifting the time t by [tex]2 \pi / \omega[/tex] and see what happens.
 
There was no other information given. What do you mean by shifting the time??
 
It has been a while for me, but I believe nrged is saying to apply the time-evolution operator,

e^(iHt)
or maybe it was
e^(-iHt)

Have the covered this concept in your class?
 
Shomy said:
There was no other information given. What do you mean by shifting the time??

First things first. What is the time dependence of the total wavefunction? Psi is a linear combination of the eigenstates of the Hamiltonian, right? What is the time dependence of each eigenstate? What i sthe time dependence of the total wavefunction? Can you writ edown the total wavefunction, showing explicitly its time dependence?

Then you should simply replace t by t+2 pi/omega in you expression and you should see that the total wavefunction remains unchanged. That's what I meant by "shifting the time".
 
Redbelly98 said:
It has been a while for me, but I believe nrged is saying to apply the time-evolution operator,

e^(iHt)
or maybe it was
e^(-iHt)

Have the covered this concept in your class?

Well, it could be done this way, yes. But I had something simpler in mind...see my previous post.
 
nrqed said:
Well, it could be done this way, yes. But I had something simpler in mind...see my previous post.

Okay. I didn't see the necessary e^iwt factors explicitly in the original description, but perhaps they are in Shomy's textbook or class notes description of the H.O. wavefunctions.
 
Redbelly98 said:
Okay. I didn't see the necessary e^iwt factors explicitly in the original description, but perhaps they are in Shomy's textbook or class notes description of the H.O. wavefunctions.

That's what I wanted him/her to realize: that there are factors [tex]e^{-iE_n t/\hbar}[/tex]
 

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