How Does Torque Affect Angular Acceleration in a Circular Disk?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between torque and angular acceleration in the context of a circular disk. Participants are analyzing the calculations related to torque, moment of inertia, and angular acceleration, while questioning the assumptions and values used in the calculations.

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  • Participants are examining the calculations for torque and moment of inertia, questioning the correctness of the values used, particularly the radius and the angle. There are discussions about the implications of the right-hand rule and the interpretation of torque direction.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations and questioning the assumptions made. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the radius and the angle in the torque calculation, but no consensus has been reached on the correct values.

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There are indications of potential errors in the initial torque calculation, and participants are encouraged to check their premises and the definitions of terms used in the calculations. The original poster's calculations are being scrutinized for accuracy.

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Fred makes a circular disk of copper, with mass m=1.1 kg and radius R=0.96 meters. He drills a hole at the spot marked "X", which is 0.75 of the way from the center to the edge of the disk. He then suspends the disk from a nail, so that the disk is free to rotate around the nail.

What is the moment of inertia of the disk around the nail?

Fred now swings the disk by a small angle of θ=9.8 degrees, as shown in the diagram below. He holds the disk in this position.

What is the angular displacement from its original position? Provide the answer in radians, and use a positive value to mean "into the page" and a negative value to mean "out of the page."

In this position, what is the torque around the nail due to gravity? Use a positive value to mean "into the page" and a negative value to mean "out of the page."

Fred now releases the disk. It starts to swing back to its original orientation.
What is the initial angular acceleration of the disk?
Relevant Equations
torque= Force * radius * sin(theta)
moment of inertia= [(1/2)(1.1kg)(0.96)^2+ (1.1kg) (0.75*0.96)^2]= 1.08 kg*m^2
θ=9.8 degrees= 0.17 rad

torque= (mass*gravity) * radius * sin(theta)
radius= 0.17rad * 0.96m = 0.16m
torque= (1.1kg*9.8m/s^2) * 0.16m * sin(0.17rad) = 0.29 N*m

torque = inertia * angular acceleration
0.29N*m= 1.08 kg*m^2 * angular acceleration
angular acceleration = 0.27 rad/s^2
 

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Hello,
the torque is incorrect for some reason.
 
ac7597 said:
Hello,
the torque is incorrect for some reason.
Check your premises. The reason is that one of the items that goes in the torque calculation is incorrect.
 
the radius?
Should radius= 0.96m ?
 
ac7597 said:
θ=9.8 degrees= 0.17 rad
Did you take this instruction into account?
... use a positive value to mean "into the page"
If so, what rule did you use to determine whether it was into the page?
ac7597 said:
torque= (mass*gravity) * radius * sin(theta)
In the context of that as a general equation, what does "radius" refer to?
 
radius is the distance from x to the origin so (3/4)*0.96m
by the the right hand rule the torque points into the page thus it is positive:
torque= (1.1*9.8) * (3/4)*0.96 * sin(0.17rad)= 1.32 N*m ?
 
Is it -1.32N*m?
 
ac7597 said:
radius is the distance from x to the origin so (3/4)*0.96m
by the the right hand rule the torque points into the page thus it is positive:
torque= (1.1*9.8) * (3/4)*0.96 * sin(0.17rad)= 1.32 N*m ?
Looks right.
ac7597 said:
Is it -1.32N*m?
No, I was just checking you had thought it through.
 

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