How Does Water Depth Influence Wave Speed in Shallow Water?

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The discussion revolves around the influence of water depth on wave speed in shallow water, specifically examining the relationship between wave speed and the variables of gravity and water depth. The original poster presents two potential formulas for wave speed and seeks to determine their validity through dimensional analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants engage in dimensional analysis to evaluate the proposed formulas for wave speed. Questions arise regarding the dimensional consistency of the equations, particularly focusing on the units derived from each formula.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the dimensional analysis process, indicating that one of the formulas is dimensionally consistent with the units of velocity. Others seek clarification on the dimensional analysis of the incorrect formula, suggesting a productive exploration of the topic.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the dimensional analysis without deriving complete solutions, and participants are encouraged to clarify their reasoning and assumptions regarding the equations presented.

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Homework Statement


The speed of waving in shallow water depend only on the acceleration of gravity g, a quantity with dimensions L/T^2, and on the water depth h.

Which of the following formulas for the wave speed v could be correct?

a) v=1/2gh^2 b)v=√gh


Homework Equations


L = \frac{n\lambda_{n}}{2}

v^{2} = \frac{T}{\frac{m}{l}}

v = f\lambda


The Attempt at a Solution



I think I have to use one of above equations, but I don't know where to start.
 
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I think you are over complicating things. It's a simple dimensional analysis problem. Your a) equation comes out in units of m3/s2 while your b) equation comes out in m/s. Velocity has units of m/s, therefore equation b) is correct.

Actually deriving this equation for a water wave involves the inverse hyperbolic tangent function.
 
could you explain how the equation a) comes out to be m3/s2 because I don't understand the process.
 
So for a) you have 0.5gh2

Water Depth is measured in SI units of meters. When you square meters it becomes meters squared or more generally length squared.

"g" or the acceleration due to gravity has units of meters per second squared. Or more generally Length per unit time squared (written L/T^2)

0.5 does not have units so you can leave it out in a dimensional analysis problem.

Now multiply the units from h and g together.

Square meters times meters gives you cubic meters just like x2 times x gives you x3.

Seconds squared stays seconds squared.

More generally it comes out length cubed over time squared.
 

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