How far apart are the stations?

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The problem involves a train's journey with three distinct phases: acceleration, constant speed, and deceleration. The objective is to determine the distance between two stations based on the train's motion parameters.

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  • Participants discuss the need to calculate distances for three segments of the journey individually. There is uncertainty regarding the application of the distance formula and whether to sum or subtract distances to find the total distance between stations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on calculating the distances for each segment separately. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to summing these distances, with some participants expressing confusion about the calculations involved.

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Participants mention the need to clarify conditions under which certain equations apply, indicating potential gaps in understanding the kinematic equations relevant to the problem.

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A train leaves a station from rest with a constant acceleration of 0.3m/s2. It reaches a maximum speed after 3 minutes and maintains this speed for a further 5 minutes, when it slows down with a deceleration −2 m/s2 until it comes to rest at the next station. How far apart are the stations?


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s=1/2(a)(t)^2
s2-s1 or s1-s2 not sure.

The Attempt at a Solution

: a1=0.3ms^-2 t1=180s a2=-2ms^-2 t2=300s
Then I used the s=1/2at^2 formula and found that s1=4860m and s2=-90000m
This is the part I'm stuck on is it s2-s1 or s1-s2 to find how far apart the stations are?[/B]
When I use the s2-s1 it gives me a negative value and I think there is no such thing as a negative distance.
 
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There are three portions of the trip, not just two.

The equation ##s=\frac{1}{2}at^2## only applies if certain conditions are met. What are some of those conditions?

Edit: I may have misunderstood your difficulty. The approach that I have in mind is adding up the distance for the three segments of the journey, not subtracting.
 
I have been trying to find the third trip but I still don't understand.
 
There are 3 segments of the trip that you need to calculate individually. The first segment is where the train is accelerating during the whole segment. The second segment is where the train is moving at constant velocity during the whole segment. The third segment is where the train is decelerating during the whole segment. The distance between the two stations is the sum of those three distances: s1 + s2 + s3
 
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TomHart said:
There are 3 segments of the trip that you need to calculate individually. The first segment is where the train is accelerating during the whole segment. The second segment is where the train is moving at constant velocity during the whole segment. The third segment is where the train is decelerating during the whole segment. The distance between the two stations is the sum of those three distances: s1 + s2 + s3
ok thanks ill try and solve it, I have been doing this question for 3 hours, the funny thing is I find the hardest qs easy and easy qs hard :D
 
I got an answer of 21789m if anyone can verify please.
 
I got the same result.
 
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TomHart said:
I got the same result.
Ok thank you sooo much. ;)
 
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