How Far Does a Block Slide When Launched by a Compressed Spring?

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The problem involves a block being launched by a compressed spring along a horizontal surface, with considerations of spring potential energy and frictional forces affecting the block's motion. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, specifically energy conservation and friction.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of potential energy from the spring and its conversion to kinetic energy, while questioning the necessity of calculating the block's speed. There are attempts to relate the work done by friction to the distance the block travels, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their calculations and assumptions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and guidance on how to relate the potential energy of the spring to the work done by friction. There is recognition of the need to ensure proper unit conversions and calculations, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the final answer.

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There are mentions of potential errors in calculations, particularly regarding unit conversions and the values used for friction. Some participants note the importance of ensuring that the energy calculations are consistent and correctly set up.

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A spring of spring constant k = 340 Nm-1 is used to launch a 1.5-kg block along a horizontal surface by compressing the spring by a distance of 18 cm. If the coefficient of sliding friction between the block and the surface is 0.25, how far does the block slide?

Well i have:

W=1/2kx^2
W=55080J
W=U(potential energy) so i know the potential energy of the spring is 55080
Energy is conserved..so after the spring has decompressed all the energy is in the block..which is now kinetic
K=1/2mv^2
55080=1/2(1.5)v^2
so Vi=406.5m/s ?? that seems pretty darn high, this is just the initial velocity right?
so Vf=0
friction = 3.7N
F=ma
Vf^2=vi^2+2ax

I assume I'm using these equations..but am not sure how i arise to get accel or if I'm on the right track..
 
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The spring constant is given in Nm-1 so you have to convert the length of the spring to
meters. you also multiplied by the mass (1.5kg) when you should have divided when calculating Vi.
Calculating the speed of the block is really unnecessary, because you can do it all with potential energy. All of the potential energy of the spring will go to friction. Since the friction force is constant and in the opposite direction of the velocity. The energy dissipated by friction is Force * distance.
(using a rounded off value of 3.7N in your calculations could make the final answer wrong)
 
kamerling said:
The spring constant is given in Nm-1 so you have to convert the length of the spring to
meters. you also multiplied by the mass (1.5kg) when you should have divided when calculating Vi.
Calculating the speed of the block is really unnecessary, because you can do it all with potential energy. All of the potential energy of the spring will go to friction. Since the friction force is constant and in the opposite direction of the velocity. The energy dissipated by friction is Force * distance.
(using a rounded off value of 3.7N in your calculations could make the final answer wrong)


well..friction is 3.675N
So, i know the potential energy of the spring is 55080J, how would i set up an equation to figure out the distance the block would travel?
 
Hint: All the initial energy ends up dissipated by friction. What work is done by the friction force?
 
Doc Al said:
Hint: All the initial energy ends up dissipated by friction. What work is done by the friction force?

The work of friction (Wf) is:
W=Fx
so Wf=3.675x
 
warmfire540 said:
The work of friction (Wf) is:
W=Fx
so Wf=3.675x
Good. Keep going.
 
the work of the spring (potential energy) (using the work-energy theorem) is 55080...
so 55080=3.675x
x=14987.75?
that can't be right..i must be missing a step?
 
warmfire540 said:
the work of the spring (potential energy) (using the work-energy theorem) is 55080...
Redo this calculation, paying attention to units. (Convert cm to m.)
so 55080=3.675x
x=14987.75?
that can't be right..i must be missing a step?
Once you correct your value for spring PE you should be fine. I don't see any missing steps. (Calculating KE at intermediate points is unecessary.)
 
Doc Al said:
Redo this calculation, paying attention to units. (Convert cm to m.)

Once you correct your value for spring PE you should be fine. I don't see any missing steps. (Calculating KE at intermediate points is unecessary.)



BLAGH!
stupid mistake on my part...
so work now is equal to 5.5J
so 5.5=3.675x
x=1.49m

answer to the problem..
 

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