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- Homework Statement
- A mass of 20 kg is released from rest from the top of a fixed inclined plane of inclination 53 deg and height 4 m. At the bottom of the inclined plane, there is a massless spring of length 2 m. Find the maximum compression of the spring.(k=10000 N/m) take g=10m/s2

- Relevant Equations
- ME1=ME2

This is how I tried to do it, which is the most direct. The force that the mass exerts on the spring is mgsin(53). and I equated that to kx. and found x. but apparently, this is wrong and the teacher told me a different method.

(ME)1=(ME)2 due to conservation of mechanical energy

20∗10∗4=20∗10(2−x)∗0.8+0+0.5∗10000∗x^2 on LHS there is no kinetic energy and the potential energy of the block is the only thing on the left. And RHS there is no kinetic energy but the potential energy of the block and spring is there. And from here you just need to solve the quadratic. I understand this method and see nothing wrong with but I don't understand what is wrong with mine. I think I even get where the difference is coming actually. It's even more intuitive that in the second method, you observe that when the block collides with the spring it compresses very much and comes back to less than the original length, which doesn't take it into account. But I don't understand why it compresses more cuz the same force is applied, so it moves the same distance. Just can somebody elucidate why force doesn't only determine the compression? It's hookes Law I don't see what's wrong though.

(ME)1=(ME)2 due to conservation of mechanical energy

20∗10∗4=20∗10(2−x)∗0.8+0+0.5∗10000∗x^2 on LHS there is no kinetic energy and the potential energy of the block is the only thing on the left. And RHS there is no kinetic energy but the potential energy of the block and spring is there. And from here you just need to solve the quadratic. I understand this method and see nothing wrong with but I don't understand what is wrong with mine. I think I even get where the difference is coming actually. It's even more intuitive that in the second method, you observe that when the block collides with the spring it compresses very much and comes back to less than the original length, which doesn't take it into account. But I don't understand why it compresses more cuz the same force is applied, so it moves the same distance. Just can somebody elucidate why force doesn't only determine the compression? It's hookes Law I don't see what's wrong though.

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