How Far Does a Package Travel Horizontally When Dropped from a Plane?

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The problem involves a package dropped from a plane traveling horizontally at a specific speed and height, focusing on the horizontal distance traveled before impact and the velocity just before hitting the ground. The subject area includes kinematics and projectile motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial velocity components of the package, questioning the y-component at the moment of release and whether the x-component changes during the fall. Some express uncertainty about the calculations and the definitions of terms like initial velocity vector.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the assumptions made, such as ignoring air resistance and the nature of the velocity components. Some have offered insights into the constancy of the x-component and the effects of gravity on the y-component, while others are clarifying their understanding of the problem setup.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the initial y-component being zero, and participants are encouraged to think about the relationship between the time taken to fall and the horizontal distance traveled. Some constraints include the assumption of no air resistance and the need for clarity on the definitions of velocity components.

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Homework Statement


An Alaskan rescue plane drops a package of emergency rations to a stranded party of explorers. The plane is traveling horizontally at 100 m/s at a height of 50 m above the ground. What horizontal distance does the package travel before striking the ground? what is the veloicty of the package before it hits the ground?


Homework Equations


X=Vox(t)
Y=Yo+Voy(t)+1/2G(t)^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I found the x and y components but could not find time and further on. Any help is appreciated.
 
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Let me ask you this:

when the package initial leaves the plane, what is it's y-component of velocity? Also, as the package travels towards the ground, does the x-component vary at all?

(side note: I am assume we are ignoring air resistance?)
 
srmeier said:
Let me ask you this:

when the package initial leaves the plane, what is it's y-component of velocity? Also, as the package travels towards the ground, does the x-component vary at all?

(side note: I am assume we are ignoring air resistance?)

for the y component i got 44.8 and x component i got 89.4. I don't quite understand what you mean when you ask if the x component varies.

and yes, ignore air resistance. I am in my first year of physics so I am sure the problems can't be too complex for you guys.
 
yoyophysics1 said:
for the y component i got 44.8 and x component i got 89.4. I don't quite understand what you mean when you ask if the x component varies.

How did you get those values? Are you sure the y component is 44.8 when the package leaves the plane?

Asking why the x component varies is the same as asking whether the package's horizontal speed changes. Does it?
 
For the x component I used the equation: Vox=VoCOS(theta)

Um I would guess that the horizontal speed doesn't change because velocity is constant in the x direction?

sorry I am a complete newbie to physics and I am trying to study for a test that I am not completely ready for at the moment
 
yoyophysics1 said:
For the x component I used the equation: Vox=VoCOS(theta)

Um I would guess that the horizontal speed doesn't change because velocity is constant in the x direction?

How did you get V0 or theta?

The package's horizontal speed is 100 m/s when it was dropped from the plane, so it follows that it must be 100 m/s throughout the package's flight.
 
No, I don't know what you mean by the intial velocity vector. I've never heard of it before :/.

I think the package is traveling faster in the x direction because wouldn't it have an initial velocity of 100 m/s?
 
I got theta by using tan^-1(50/100)

did i at least do that right?
 
yoyophysics1 said:
I got theta by using tan^-1(50/100)

did i at least do that right?

well, think about that...

theta is in radians (or degrees), 50[m]/100[m/s] give you units of seconds.
 
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Oh I see.

So I guess my question is how do I find the x and y components correctly because I obviously did them wrong the first time. When I find the x and y components then I can find theta using inverse tan, correct?
 
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I am going to state some of what is known, think about these quantities/ideas.

1) the x-component is constant because there isn't an acceleration in the x-direction.
2) the initial y-component is zero because that is how the problem is defined.
3) the package accelerates in the y-direction, this is due to gravity.

How can we use some of this?

(trigonometry isn't apart of this problem)
 
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Oh, I finally got it! those last three ideas really helped. i didn't realize that the initial y-component was supposed to be zero. Thanks a lot srmeier!
 
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yoyophysics1 said:
Oh, I finally got it! those last three ideas really helped. i didn't realize that the initial y-component was supposed to be zero. Thanks a lot srmeier!

My pleasure, I must sleep now ^^

as you continue your journey remember these things (and think about why I would tell you them):
1) the time in which it takes the object to travel form 50m to 0m in the y-direction is equal to the time in which the object travels horizontally in the x-direction.
2) to solve a quadratic equation google: the quadratic formula. (because the initial y-velocity is zero you don't need this formula but it may come up on your test)
3) to find a resultant vector given its components use the Pythagorean theorem.

If these hints confuse you at first that is ok. Take things one step at a time.
 
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