How Far Does the Ball Travel Horizontally Before Bouncing?

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The problem involves a ball thrown with an initial speed at an angle below the horizontal from a height, and participants are discussing the horizontal distance it travels before bouncing. The subject area includes kinematics and projectile motion.

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  • Participants explore various methods to calculate the time of flight and horizontal distance, questioning the use of energy conservation and the treatment of vertical motion.

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There are multiple interpretations of the problem, with participants providing different calculations and questioning each other's approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct use of equations and the nature of vertical motion.

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Participants note potential errors in assumptions about vertical speed and the application of kinematic equations. There is also mention of a typo affecting calculations.

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A ball is thrown with an initial speed of 4.6m/s at an angle of 15(degrees) below the horizontal. It is released 0.80m above the floor.

What horizontal distance does the ball cover before bouncing?



I keep getting 2.4m as my answer, but it's wrong!
Here's what I did (Please correct any mistakes):


4.6sin(15) = initial vertical velocity = 1.19m/s

1.19^2 = 2gh

1.42 = 2gh

1.42/(2*9.81)=h= .072m

upward time = 1.19 m/s - gt = 0
1.19/9.81 = t = .121sec

total height = .072 + 0.8 = .872m

0.872 = 1/2gt^2
0.872/4.9 = t^2 = 0.178, sqrt = t = 0.422sec

total time = 0.121 + 0.422= 0.543sec

horizontal velocity = 4.6cos(15) = 4.44m/s

4.44x 0.543 = 2.41m (answer)
 
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Remember that gravity acts on the object as soon as it is released, so the time it is in the air is dependent on that, regardless of how fast you're throwing it in the horizontal direction.
 
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A ball is thrown with an initial speed of 4.6m/s at an angle of 15(degrees) below the horizontal. It is released 0.80m above the floor.

What horizontal distance does the ball cover before bouncing?

Is the answer 2.98?

Here's what I did:
4.6sin(15) = initial vertical velocity = 1.19m/s
horizontal velocity = 4.6cos(15) = 4.44m/s


.8/(1.19m/s)=.672s
0+(4.44m/s)(.672s)=2.98
 
hi kman2027! :smile:
kman2027 said:
.8/(1.19m/s)=.672s
0+(4.44m/s)(.672s)=2.98

the first equation assumes that the vertical speed is constant (s = ut), it isn't :redface:

you need to use one of the standard https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=204" equations to find t

(and then your method in the second equation is correct, since the horizontal speed is constant :wink:)
 
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I got 1.7m this time.

I picked the constant acceleration equation:

y=yo+voyt-1/2gt^2
plugged in 0=.8+1.19t-1/2(-9.8)t^2
t=.385

(.385)(4.44)=1.7m

Is 1.7m right?
 
hi kman2027! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)
kman2027 said:
plugged in 0=.8+1.19t-1/2(-9.8)t^2

not quite …

the initial vertical speed is negative :wink:

(and you shouldn't have both those minuses in the t2 term)
kman2027 said:
A ball is thrown with an initial speed of 4.6m/s at an angle of 15(degrees) below the horizontal.
 
My bad, I had a typo in the equation.

.8-1.19t+(1/2)(-9.8)t^2=0
t= .3s

Then:
(4.44)(.3)= 1.3m

Is 1.3m it?

Thanks for your help by the way!
 
kman2027 said:
My bad, I had a typo in the equation.

.8-1.19t+(1/2)(-9.8)t^2=0
t= .3s

Then:
(4.44)(.3)= 1.3m

Is 1.3m it?

Thanks for your help by the way!

What's the equation for calculating distance based on velocity and time?
 
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yes 1.3 looks fine :smile:
 

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