How far does the putty-block system compress the spring?

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The discussion centers on calculating the compression of a spring in a system involving a block and a wad of putty. A 0.46 kg block is attached to a spring with a force constant of 22 N/m, and a 0.052 kg wad of putty is thrown at the block, sticking upon impact. The correct approach involves using conservation of momentum for the inelastic collision to find the velocity after the collision, followed by applying conservation of energy to determine the spring compression. The final calculation reveals that the initial energy must be correctly accounted for, leading to the conclusion that the previously calculated compression of 0.042 m was incorrect.

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Homework Statement



a .46kg block is attached to a horizontal spring that is at equilibrium length, and whose force constant is 22 N/m. The block rests on a frictionless surface. A 5.2x10-2 wad of putty is thrown horizontally at the block, hitting it with a speed of 2 m/s and sticking.

How far does the putty-block system compress the spring

Homework Equations



E1=E2

The Attempt at a Solution



K1U1=K2U2
1/2 (m1+m2) v^2=1/2Kx^2
1/2 (.052+.460)(.203^2)=1/2(22)x^2
i got x=.042 but it is saying this is incorrect
 
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eagles12 said:
1/2 (.052+.460)(.203^2)=1/2(22)x^2
i got x=.042 but it is saying this is incorrect

The equation looks good, but I don't get x=.042, maybe check the calculation again.
 
Your equation is correct.
Plug in your values again and find x again.
 
Yes i was wrong. I always confuse between conservation of energy and conservation of momentum.
 
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azizlwl said:
M2 has no initial energy.
Total energy of the system only 1/2 (.052)(.203^2)
Final energy when all converted to potential energy is 1/2(22)x^2

Hey Azizlwl,

Actually OP's equation is correct.


You cannot apply conservation of energy from start because its an inelastic collision.
Therefore, energy before colllision is not equal to energy after collision.
For velocities after collision, he has used conservation of momentum and thus derived the new energy.

Energy is conserved during the course of journey after the collision, which is exactly the equation OP used :-)
 
azizlwl said:
Yes i was wrong. I always confuse between conservation of energy and conservation of momentum.

No problem at all.Happens to most of us :-)
 

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